Bernoulli Drive fixes, ?any experiences anyone

[jessenator]

Back to the cleaning carts. There are a couple on eBay at the moment and both share the same design. However, I found another photographic example of a cartridge on twitter.

I wonder if this person is a member... Maybe could create a 3d printed replacement.

Here's the "older?" Cart: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254303545135

The other is 0 bids w/ 3 days left, starting at ~$30

 

[jessenator]

Posting for posterity… https://web.archive.org/web/20011204173901/http://63.108.224.177/comet/drivers/Mac501-1.HQX

Sometime in 1999(?), Iomega sold/gave servicing rights/privileges to Comet Enterprises it seems. They had a repository of drivers, and thankfully two of the imaged pages had what appears to be a viable HQX file for download.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyqnm1b6ihbrv0z/Mac501-1.HQX?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7t1fs6mwzrdppfm/Mac501-1-comet.HQX?dl=0

one mirror and Comet's own. Both 11kB in size, whereas v3.5.3 is 133kB so there could be some corruption/complete data. Also, the v3.5.3 downloaded while the v5.0.1 opened itself as a hypertext document initially in a modern browser.

I can't test it at the moment, but maybe one of these will work?

 

[jessenator]

Well scratch those files. They've been truncated down the line sometime and are worthless bits. Back to the search...

 

[OleLila]

Yea....we don't know what it is, we don't know if it works, we can't take a still enough picture so that you can figure out what it is....ahhhh, ;lets  see...80 bucks plus shipping

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254303545135?ul_noapp=true

 

[Cory5412]

Those pictures aren't that bad. This is for the earlier, much much larger, primarily PC focused bernoulli cartridge system, not for the 5.25-inch Bernoulli mechanisms Macs can use.

 

[jessenator]

I'm almost in possession of a Bernoulli Box II cleaning cart/disk, from which I will make a 3D model that can (hopefully) be printed. Thr thing is meant to come apart to change the cleaning element on the wiper arm, so it hopefully isn't too complex to print.

Yes, Cory is correct, that listing is an old Bernoulli Box I cleaning disk. Different form factor completely from the more common garden varietals. I dont think the originals went up to or past 100 MB, so you've more than likely got the II drives.

Here are two examples of II drives. Some had a case wide enough for two, the "Transportable" version is the one drive only (plus PSU space)

The original, older form factor were ENORMOUS, comparatively.

 

[jessenator]

Here are some of mine. Super slow internet in the boonies...

 

[OleLila]

Pulled the Bernoulli 150 out again today...Anubus Formatter sees it and attempts to format with 

Format Failed

Error in format

Error sense key = 02 30

 

[jessenator]

I'm 90% sure any attempt to use a utility ither than Iomega's won't work amd could potentially damage the media.

I've tested v 3.x.x whatever that is on MacGui and it works into Mac OS 9.x

 

[aplmak]

So I had the hardest time with getting a Bernoulli disk loaded or mounted with the proper driver after I accidentally formatted it. After many hours what I found out works best is to use FWB Hard Disk Toolkit 2.0 and do a device copy from a "good Iomega disk" with the proper hidden Iomega drivers and partitions on them.

Save the copy of the full or blank Bernoulli disk as a file. This copies block by block of the Bernoulli disk. Then just do a device copy and copy the image back to the disk that isn't working right.

I found using other format utilities like APS Utilities or another utility of some kind you can at least format it. If you boot your machine with a good Bernoulli disk it should recognize the disk that won't mount properly because the driver is loaded already from the good disk.

Again So it's important to boot from a good Bernoulli disk first to load the drivers. Then you can work on it by copying all the hidden drivers and blocks with FWB Hard Disk Toolkit 2.0. Keep in mind you need to use that specific version.. I couldn't find device copy in other versions of FWB Hard Disk Toolkit.

This has successfully worked for me! Good Luck!