apple SE afterdark password bypass

[unitednations161]

Just picked up an mac se, when i start it up it has the fish swimming and wanting a password, is there a way around this? I tried holding shift as it boots, that didn't work. 

Please help!

 

[unity]

You will have to boot from another source, then go into that drive and move the control panel/extension out. If it was a classic, you could boot from ROM. But the SE does not have that option.

 

[Macdrone]

start up holding the shift key, after dark is an extension (and control panel) and hopefully wont load.

 

[unitednations161]

I can probably find a boot disk online somewhere, how do I boot from that if I find it? And Ive tried holding shift during the boot, it doesn't do anything. 

 

[unity]

start up holding the shift key, after dark is an extension (and control panel) and hopefully wont load.

Does not work. How/why? No clue!

 

[unitednations161]

I probably won't be able to make a floppy, but i may be able to buy one, or the FLOPPY EMU DISK EMULATOR. How do you boot from a floppy over the internal hard disk? 

But yeah holding shift doesn't run with extensions off? 

 

[Compgeke]

Floppy will always autoboot before hard drive. If there's a bootable floppy in the drive it'll default to that over any SCSI devices. If there's a floppy that isn't bootable it'll spit out the disk and continue on to the SCSI devices.

 

[unitednations161]

Ok thank you!

 

[BadGoldEagle]

Floppy will always autoboot before hard drive. If there's a bootable floppy in the drive it'll default to that over any SCSI devices. If there's a floppy that isn't bootable it'll spit out the disk and continue on to the SCSI devices.

But I think the SE will boot from the HD by the time you select your disk image on the Floppy EMU... You have to be really quick!

 

[just.in.time]

If you hit the hardware interrupt key immediately could you then select the image, and type whatever command it is to exit the interrupt prompt box?

Edited to add: if it already has 4MB of RAM then you definitely have a small window to work with before it finishes the memory check.

 

[Elfen]

Just turning on the Mac SE and then hold down the Shift Key on the Left will (should) make he Mac Boot with its "Welcome to Macintosh" boot window saying "Extensions off"

If it does not that means that you have Fool Proof in there as well and that needs to be removed as well.

Last resort at this point is to boot from a floppy (It it's working). A bad floppy disk or drive will make the Mac boot from the hard drive after the floppy boot attempt fails.

 

[unitednations161]

I just bought another mac SE with some boot discs but i do not think they work. It says disc unreadable on my working SE. I also picked up a Sealed Microsoft Project 1.1, if thats of any value by not opening it. 

 

[Elfen]

It's more likely your drive needs cleaning and lubing than a disk going bad. Try it on the new machine and see if it boots.