system 6 disk image issues

[Osgeld]

Ok so there has been some talk of the different basic's available for classic mac's so last night I thought I would like to poke around with a couple and check them out

I have a "dead" mac plus stored in my parents garage, before it died years ago I snagged its rom, and have it in hand, no biggie then I will just get mini v mac, use my rom and download system 6 off of apples website

that is all fine and dandy but the apple downloads are saved as self extracting sit.bin files, and I have no mac that

A) is in working shape

B) isnt halfway across the state

first thing I thought to do is goto stuffits website and download the windows version, but they dont just let you download it, they require you to enter an email address and wait for a link

that link 12+ hours later still has not arrived, reading around it seems that it wouldnt decompress the self executing file anyway

so is there any way I can get these silly disk images uncompressed so I can install system 6 on mini v mac, without a mac?

 

[Osgeld]

yea ok so I finally got stuffit for windows and yea it cant open sit.bin files

side rant, what the hell is smith micros problem with making a anything that is not completely backwards? I had to take a freakin class for poser, but I am teaching myself blender, and this horrid stuffit expander only has 1 darn window, where it puts every single compressed file on my computer in it. I have website backups which have tens of thousands of zip files in them, after waiting 22 hours for a donwload link to a free expander! Stupid crappy nipple twisting dumb arse company!

anyway back to the point heres where I stand now

mini v mac with 80mb hard disk image and a basic boot install of OS7

still want os 6 disk images uncompressed

I am going to try and make these compressed disk images into disk images so i can unstuff them on the v mac back into disk images and back out of vmac so I can load them as a disk image

(got that?)

unless someone has a better idea under windows / linux

 

[ppuskari]

Hey, I might be able to help you...

Maybe I can unpack them and re sit them in a more usable version for you?

Let me know if you want to try. Shouldn't take me long to do this later yet tonight or tomorrow.

I'll give you access to my ftp site to grab them or something from PM?

 

[Osgeld]

that would be cool if you dont mind

 

[ppuskari]

Well after much ado I think I have these floppies for you and will be putting them out on share shortly for you to download.

I made MacBinary versions, the raw disk image version, and .hqx versions, of 6.03, 6.0.5, 6.0.8 which are out on Apple's site for free. I even made the one 6.08 set as DiskCopy 4.2 version instead of 6.x All of which can be handled easily by the Expander app in windows now.

I learned something new today. In Windows 7 and apparently Win 2k, and 2k3 as well, if you have files that were once hosted with File Services for Macintosh , then from windows explorer some of the old Classic apps will show as ZERO bytes... IF you map the share in OSX via a SMB share to the PC hosting them, it will show the same thing.

If you copy the files from the pc share to a native OSX mac drive, then share that drive out as AppleShare, it will show up as AppleShare via IP only to your old Macs.. Even if you select AFP on the OSX 10.5 side. The files are messed up there too.

The only way to get around this is to rehost the Mac files stored on the PC file folder set under Win2K etc with Services for Macintosh, then copy them out of that share back to a real Mac drive etc. Then the files SHOW as the real size values and everything is still intact.

I've copied these folders around extensively and never noticed it before, so I"m hoping even though Windows Explorer sees them as zero byte files, it copies them properly as long as the destination is also a NTFS drive. So I guess for those classic apps it thinks are zero bytes must be stored in the resource fork only or something. Odd. I"l l have to experiment with that last part on some files that I'm not concerned about losing.

I ran into this tonight when copying upthe image files via WebDAV to my server and it borked on a bunch of zero byte files that were just fine on the Mac osx side.

I"ll PM you the connection details.