Sorbet leopard vs Shuriken

[GondolinOnMyMind]

All,

What are the actual differences between those two? From the Macintosh garden:
"Shuriken is the official follow-up project to Sorbet Leopard, as well as the direct successor to the AquaTrimcelerator / AquaSuite Mac OS X 10.4 utility packages, in addition to being the ultimate culmination in (PowerPC-based) Mac OS X performance optimization, outclassing version 10.3 in both performance and usability."
Would that mean the apps (like Safari) are on more modern level than in Sorbet leopard? Which one is closer to modern operating system, in terms of application versions, security fixes and such?

Performance may be an issue of course, the older the device, the less resources you have.
Again on Macintosh garden: "Built off of the rock-solid Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard base system, Mac OS X 10.5.9 Sorbet Leopard offers a significant jump in speed and security over its predecessor by utilizing advanced methods of performance optimization, system streamlining, and brand new features, all together rivaling most of the UX improvements seen in Snow Leopard on Intel machines."

Has anyone actually tested the performance on various platforms between these two?

Which one you would install onto
a) g3 -era devices
b) g4 -era devices
c) g5 -era devices

 

[Nixontheknight]

All,

What are the actual differences between those two? From the Macintosh garden:
"Shuriken is the official follow-up project to Sorbet Leopard, as well as the direct successor to the AquaTrimcelerator / AquaSuite Mac OS X 10.4 utility packages, in addition to being the ultimate culmination in (PowerPC-based) Mac OS X performance optimization, outclassing version 10.3 in both performance and usability."
Would that mean the apps (like Safari) are on more modern level than in Sorbet leopard? Which one is closer to modern operating system, in terms of application versions, security fixes and such?

Performance may be an issue of course, the older the device, the less resources you have.
Again on Macintosh garden: "Built off of the rock-solid Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard base system, Mac OS X 10.5.9 Sorbet Leopard offers a significant jump in speed and security over its predecessor by utilizing advanced methods of performance optimization, system streamlining, and brand new features, all together rivaling most of the UX improvements seen in Snow Leopard on Intel machines."

Has anyone actually tested the performance on various platforms between these two?

Which one you would install onto
a) g3 -era devices
b) g4 -era devices
c) g5 -era devices

sorbet leopard can only be installed on G4s and G5s, because leopard was never designed for G3s

 

[CC_333]

sorbet leopard can only be installed on G4s and G5s, because leopard was never designed for G3s

Other than a few early betas which were released before the ability to run on G3s was disabled (but this was likely because said betas shared more in common with Tiger than with what eventually became the RTM version of Leopard).

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[Cory5412]

disclaimer: I haven't used any of these projects.

Most of those eras are very big.

On G3s, I typically run OS 9. OS X 10.3-10.4 does run fine on blue G3s, the more RAM you have the better, it also likes/gets benefit out of bigger/faster disks and replacement graphics cards. iBooks/iMacs/PowerBooks, I'd leave on OS 9. (Even at 500MH or more, and even if you can put a full gig of ram, these run 9 better than X. I ran 10.4 on my Pismo 500/512 back in the day and it was "fine" but not "amazing")

On G4s, I typically run OS 9, until you get to dual-CPUs and 512MB or more of RAM, even tiptop G4s really are most at home with 10.4. 10.5 may work okay on an absolute tiptop system like MDD@2x1.42 with max ram or quicksilver @2x1.25 with max ram, and coreimage capable graphics cards for both.

G5s, 10.5 should be fine.

Not-zero of the stuff I've read about Sorbet Leopard in particular implies that you really need a tiptop G4 to use it well, which is both a reflection on how heavy base Leopard was on PPC hardware, and a reflection on whether or not it's actually any faster than base Leopard.

With that in mind, I absolutely can't imagine these things really change the meta about what hardware runs various OS X versions well.

 

[xantufrog]

I can say I've dualbooted both on my 1GHz G4 imac and Shuriken Tiger is substantially faster than Sorbet Leopard on it*

*except, interestingly, while modernish web browsers like interwebppc load way faster on Tiger, the websites themselves load faster in Sorbet Leopard. But to be frank neither option offers a very pleasant modern web experience so i still gravitate towards booting into Tiger on the g4 imac