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So what's new with your Newton?

AndyO

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Excellent, thanks! I grabbed that copy of NCU from the Mac repository - it looks exactly the same as the version I installed on my PC, so pretty sure it has the functions I'm looking for. I hope to get my office rearranged a bit to fit the 630 back in and install NCU on that next week. I have the right cable for the connection, even though I'm not sure why I still have a couple of old Apple serial cables!

I must say that using the eMate is quite an experience. I'd largely forgotten how the Newton OS works, but it is a very neat system, and seems to be very capable. I've only had this eMate since last year but have never used it because I couldn't get it connected, so even being able to get the date patch onto it and see my NewtonWorks documents and drop them into LibreOffice is a great deal of progress. As you say, UNNA is down so there may be other software out there for it that I can grab and play with - I'm open to any suggestions as to what might be good to try.

The MP 130 I've had since it was new, but it's been in a drawer for many, many years. I'm looking forward to getting it up and running too, because once the date is fixed on that, it will likely get used quite a bit.... assuming I can train it to recognize my handwriting better than it does right now. I did get it to be quite accurate once, but that was a long, long time ago! However, I could certainly use a good PDA for day to day, and I recall the 130 was quite effective 'back then'.
 

Byrd

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However, I could certainly use a good PDA for day to day, and I recall the 130 was quite effective 'back then'.

From what I remember the Newton 130 was plenty good enough to not consider getting a 2x00 at the time. It was also trusty enough and small compared to bulkier 2x00 and eMates.
 

beachycove

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Handwriting and the 130: printing discrete letters rather than writing in longhand can give much better results. I have read the claim from some users that NewtOS2 is 100% accurate when handwriting is kept to printing rather than cursive. It should also be faster.

Having said which, I tend to use cursive on my 2100, and printing on the emate, since a) I like to see it work, and b) the emate will only recognize printing. I guess the assumption was the handwriting on the thing would be rare, given the keyboard.
 

AndyO

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From what I remember the Newton 130 was plenty good enough to not consider getting a 2x00 at the time. It was also trusty enough and small compared to bulkier 2x00 and eMates.

It is such a long time that I used the 130, but I do recall it being much more accurate than the original Newton. It was certainly good enough for me to use to help keep me organized, though it was fairly slow. And a bit expensive on batteries!

I could be tempted by a 2000 or 2100, but not at eBay prices.

Handwriting and the 130: printing discrete letters rather than writing in longhand can give much better results. I have read the claim from some users that NewtOS2 is 100% accurate when handwriting is kept to printing rather than cursive. It should also be faster.

Having said which, I tend to use cursive on my 2100, and printing on the emate, since a) I like to see it work, and b) the emate will only recognize printing. I guess the assumption was the handwriting on the thing would be rare, given the keyboard.

I doubt I'd be using cursive, probably not any, handwriting on the eMate. The keyboard seems pretty good for what I need, but I will be doing some diagrams on it. Good to know that printing may work better. Time to settle in and play!

Thanks!!
 

AndyO

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My eMate is showing an error each morning when I leave it plugged in, with the date reset to January 1 2008. Oddly, when I leave it on battery, no error, and the date is fine. So I left it in the office over the weekend with no power connected to see if I get the error, and indeed, if the existing battery can even power it that long. It did work for several short battery-powered bursts yesterday though.

Next week, workload allowing, I'm planning to have a mess with the MP130.

Looking through the UNNA mirror, one app that stood out as interesting was HyperNewt... I think I might give that a try. There's a fair bit to look through though, which is part of the fun!

It's funny, that browsing a bit in the myapplenewton blog makes me far more interested in what these things can do than I ever was back in the day!!

Once again, thanks!
 

AndyO

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Well, progress. I have both the eMate and now MP 130 communicating with my Mac, which means I have now also loaded the Fix2010 on the 130, and set to the current/correct date, and that seems to be working. Also installed HyperNewt on the eMate, not so much because I have a clue how to make use of it, but just to test that I can get packages onto it. That works like a charm - and HyperNewt also seems to, though I may have to take a while to figure out if and how to use it!

Very happy! Both are running, potentially serviceable for regular use, and ready for software!
 
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