Power Mac G4 AGP Rhapsody 1.2v3 install

[LarBob]

I have a 350 MHz Power Mac G4 and can't get Rhapsody 1.2v3 to install. At first the hard disk wouldn't be recognized by the installer at all, so I changed it from CS to Master. Then it worked and I could select it, but now when I boot to the actual installer (Rhapsody) it says no disks could be found. The drive is much bigger than the required 1 GB, in fact it's about 80. Could that be the issue? I tried formatting it with only a 1 gigabyte partition at the beginning of the drive to no avail. This computer is supposed to be supported by Rhapsody 1.2v3.

 

[bunnspecial]

When you are booting into the installer, are you initializing the disk with disk tool on the installer?

As I recall, Rhapsody/OS X server volumes are somewhat proprietary, although it's been a little while since I've played with it.

 

[LarBob]

When you are booting into the installer, are you initializing the disk with disk tool on the installer?

As I recall, Rhapsody/OS X server volumes are somewhat proprietary, although it's been a little while since I've played with it.

With Drive Setup, which is what's supplied on the CD. It boots to an OS 9 live CD before taking you to Rhapsody.

 

[mariik]

I have too a Power Mac G4 Sawtooth 350 mhz, it´s a triple boot ( OS 9, OS X Tiger, OS X Server 1.2 (Rhapsody 5.6)) system.

80 GB drive size should´nt be a problem, my G4 has a 160 GB ide hd (computer sees it as a 128 GB drive). The drive is partioned to 4 partitions,

first is a 2,9 GB OS 9 partition, next Rhapsody UFS partition 1,9 GB, the rest is for Tiger and a partition for work files.

I installed that hd and operating systems about 2011, so my memory about the process is quite hazy. I think Rhapsody install was quite

straightforward (compared to what it was installing Rhapsody DR2 x86 to a Pentium 120 mhz pc).

 

[LarBob]

I have too a Power Mac G4 Sawtooth 350 mhz, it´s a triple boot ( OS 9, OS X Tiger, OS X Server 1.2 (Rhapsody 5.6)) system.

80 GB drive size should´nt be a problem, my G4 has a 160 GB ide hd (computer sees it as a 128 GB drive). The drive is partioned to 4 partitions,

first is a 2,9 GB OS 9 partition, next Rhapsody UFS partition 1,9 GB, the rest is for Tiger and a partition for work files.

I installed that hd and operating systems about 2011, so my memory about the process is quite hazy. I think Rhapsody install was quite

straightforward (compared to what it was installing Rhapsody DR2 x86 to a Pentium 120 mhz pc).

Another interesting note is that if I try to format the drive with anything other than Mac OS Standard or Mac OS Extended through the Drive Setup on the Rhapsody CD, the initialization fails (though I'm pretty sure the Rhapsody installer in OS 9 formats it anyway). I have replaced the IDE optical drive with another due to the one I got with the machine not working properly, but I can't really image that'd be the issue. :-/

 

[oneboyarmy]

Another interesting note is that if I try to format the drive with anything other than Mac OS Standard or Mac OS Extended through the Drive Setup on the Rhapsody CD, the initialization fails (though I'm pretty sure the Rhapsody installer in OS 9 formats it anyway). I have replaced the IDE optical drive with another due to the one I got with the machine not working properly, but I can't really image that'd be the issue. :-/

I did some installs on beige hardware and my experience was that it was a wee bit particular about the optical drive. It has been a while since I've tinkered with it as well. 

 

[LarBob]

I did some installs on beige hardware and my experience was that it was a wee bit particular about the optical drive. It has been a while since I've tinkered with it as well. 

It boots fine from the optical drive and just doesn't see the hard disk when trying to boot to the actual Rhapsody installer. If I unplugged the replaced drive and booted it off of something else maybe, but I don't really think that would be it.

 

[LarBob]

Okay, progress. I switched to a 2 GB IDE drive and the installer boots to the point of language selection at the Rhapsody console. After this, it says "the installer was unable to find a preselected installation target" and prompts me to reboot to select one even though I already did.

 

[LarBob]

Okay, progress. I switched to a 2 GB IDE drive and the installer boots to the point of language selection at the Rhapsody console. After this, it says "the installer was unable to find a preselected installation target" and prompts me to reboot to select one even though I already did.

Here's an image of the error:

 

[galgot]

Have you tried updating the hd driver wih the disk tool included in the Rhapsody installer disk after initializing ?

I remember i had trouble installing server 1.2 once because i first installed os 8.1, hd formated and updated with the 8.1 install disk.

Once i restarted on the server 1.2 cd, and updated the hd driver from there it worked...

 

[LarBob]

Have you tried updating the hd driver wih the disk tool included in the Rhapsody installer disk after initializing ?

I remember i had trouble installing server 1.2 once because i first installed os 8.1, hd formated and updated with the 8.1 install disk.

Once i restarted on the server 1.2 cd, and updated the hd driver from there it worked...

I don't see any hd drivers on the cd anywhere...

 

[galgot]

there aren't.

In your Mac OS X Server 1.2 cd, go in utilities folder. there open Drive Setup .

Select your drive, then go in menu functions -> Update driver. Restart.

 

[LarBob]

there aren't.

In your Mac OS X Server 1.2 cd, go in utilities folder. there open Drive Setup .

Select your drive, then go in menu functions -> Update driver. Restart.

Of course, lol. I was being dumb. Anyways, I did that and it didn't change anything.

 

[LarBob]

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[LarBob]

I recorded a video of it here: https://youtu.be/X_QXq5qIS_s

I got close to the computer at the Scanning Disk part so you could hear the kind thunkthunkthunkthunkthunk noise it makes, but it wasn't captured very well.

 

[galgot]

I see that at 0.27, when you select the partition on which you want to make the install, the other partition is « Unused free space »…

The problem is that if you want to install MacOS 9 (or 8.6) later, you’ll have to reformate the all drive to have that free space in HFS+. That will destroy your Rhapsody partition. 
Maybe try : partition your drive in two , or more but use HFS+ for each, no free space. Then make the Rhapsody install on the first partition of the drive ( the top one in the DriveSetup partition window). Rhapsody installer makes his own trick to format his partition to UFS-Mac.

 

[LarBob]

I see that at 0.27, when you select the partition on which you want to make the install, the other partition is « Unused free space »…

The problem is that if you want to install MacOS 9 (or 8.6) later, you’ll have to reformate the all drive to have that free space in HFS+. That will destroy your Rhapsody partition. 
Maybe try : partition your drive in two , or more but use HFS+ for each, no free space. Then make the Rhapsody install on the first partition of the drive ( the top one in the DriveSetup partition window). Rhapsody installer makes his own trick to format his partition to UFS-Mac.

Even if I do so, it still does the "unable to find a preselected installation target". I formatted it as 2 Mac OS Extended partitions.

 

[LarBob]

Okay, update: I got it to install on a 500 MB hard disk, but then there's no room for anything else... any way to make the 2 GB drive work?

 

[LarBob]

Okay, I just fixed it, but it was really weird. I'll tell you what I did so anyone else in my situation can do it as well.

Installing Rhapsody on an Incompatible/Non-Working w/ Rhapsody Hard Drive

Set compatible hard drive as master, set incompatible as slave. Format both and make sure they have updated disk drivers. Partition the incompatible drive as Mac OS Extended. Tell the live cd installer to install on your incompatible disk. Then, for some reason, the Rhapsody installer will work fine with it. I have no idea why, but anyways, it works. Some people have also said that the partition you select to install Rhapsody on must be 1 GB or under, but this is simply not true, at least in this case.