OS8 on SE/30

[pondosinatra]

Ok, so I managed to get one of my SE/30's running OS 7.6.1 using Gamba's instructions. Now I'm trying to get OS 8 (then 8.1) on my other SE/30.

I have a SE/30, 16MB memory, OS 7.5.

Step 3 of Gamba's OS 8.0 Install instructions says to power off, put in a IIsi or IIfx ROM and boot. Well when I put in a IIsi ROM and boot it hangs at the Welcome to Macintosh screen. I power off, put the SE/30 ROM back in and everything boots fine.

Help!?!?

 

[trag]

I've never tried to do this, but at a guess, is it possible that your OS operation was specific to the machine and not a "universal" installation? Changing the ROM would change what kind of machine the OS was interacting with.

Try reinstalling your OS and choose the Universal Installation option if you didn't the first time.

 

[pondosinatra]

I ended up just putting OS 7.6.1 on it. It would have been nice to have OS 8.1, but I'm happy with what I got:

SE/30

128MB Memory

OS 7.6.1

68030@ 50Mhz

Xceed 256 Grayscale

 

[bibilit]

Any pics ??

The setup is nice.

 

[gobabushka]

Ok...im jelly.

 

[pondosinatra]

I hadn't put in all the memory when I took the last picture...

Only problem is I have no sound due to I'm guessing leaking caps. There's someone on here who's recapped a SE/30 board for me so I'm thinking of seeing if they can do this board as well. However due to the rarity of it (socketed CPU) I'm a bit reluctant.

 

[Mk.558]

E.N.V.Y.

Recapping that board isn't a "if" or "should I?", it's a "do now". The fact that it is socketed makes it all the more imperative to protect the board from traces getting eaten up by capacitor goo.

If the PRAM battery is old, also replace it at once.

Recapping the board isn't hard, just difficult for beginners. Fortunately there are some resources to help you on this: 1) my signature; 2) cut the cap off this. If you are not a good solderist, use electrolytic replacements. Tantalum SMD caps are for pros. Another hot item is the Bourns network filter at RP2.

You should also get a bigger hard drive... :approve:

 

[Brooklyn]

Awesome!!!

 

[pondosinatra]

And the outside...

 

[tt]

I was able to get System 8 on an SE/30 by doing the steps Gamba outlined within an emulator, and then I transferred it over via CD or CF with CF to SCSI adapter.

Nice setup....Recap it! I used polymer caps to restore my socketed board to keep it looking stock. There's a thread here with P/N's if you're interested.

 

[Mk.558]

The modernist placid grey Apple icon clashes vigorously with the old school favorite colorized Apple icon.

Although, you could bring it entirely into an Apple Store and innocently ask how can you put Mountain Lion on it. "I heard it had come out recently and would like to upgrade, I have a Mac right here, is it possible?" Don't act like you know that the 68030 is like, eight or ten generations behind a current machine, instead insist that it's all the same and a Mac is a Mac right? Even better is if you pull up a phoney custom printed newspaper that looks totally legit out of the New York Times business section that says you can do it.

I'd totally do that if I had a Macintosh Portable with no backlight. It'd make for a good Aussie "The Chasers" skit.

 

[JDW]

Folks, I too for the longest time thought these rare items were impossible to find. But with a few years of persistence, coupled with helpful tips by a friend here in the 68kMKA, I was at last able to obtain the holy grail of SE/30 upgrades. Here are the shots of my boards:

https://picasaweb.google.com/103365672326265854011/SE30MicronXceedGrayscaleVideoWithDaystarSnapOnAccelerator

And here's the mega-discussion that followed up on my find:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=16589

I have System 6.0.8, 7.1, 7.5.5, 7.6.1, and OS 8.1 all functional on my SE/30, all sitting on the same hard drive partition and selectable via System Picker. To get 7.6.1 and 8.1 to work, I use either a IIsi or IIfx ROM (I have both), and I make sure Mode32 is not loaded at startup — and of course you must do the Gamba ResEdit hack on the System file first, or it won't boot.

Here's an photo taken of the grayscale on my SE/30's screen:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3mQLg8d1xThMmI2MTE5NDMtNzNiYy00YTEzLWE1OWMtODhlYmM5NmNkN2Ez/preview?pli=1

And here are comparative photos and screenshots showing the vertical line problem I have (discussed extensively in the thread I mentioned for you above, but sadly still not resolved):

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B3mQLg8d1xThZDhhYWE3N2MtMzkzNy00NDBmLTg3NDUtM2MwNzQ3ODUwZDEy/edit

 

[trag]

One thing to note about capacitor replacement...

If I remember correctly from JDW's experience, the 220uF axial capacitor is underneath the 68030 socketed Daystar upgrade.

The 220uF replacement caps that I provide is just slightly too fat to fit under the socketed upgrade. So, whether you get replacement caps from me, or source them yourself, pay close attention to the size of the 220 uF capacitor.

 

[JDW]

The 220uF replacement caps that I provide is just slightly too fat to fit under the socketed upgrade. So, whether you get replacement caps from me, or source them yourself, pay close attention to the size of the 220 uF capacitor.

You can see how that axial cap fits beneath the accelerator in these photos:

https://picasaweb.google.com/103365672326265854011/SE30MicronXceedGrayscaleVideoWithDaystarSnapOnAccelerator#5642530038431725490

https://picasaweb.google.com/103365672326265854011/SE30MicronXceedGrayscaleVideoWithDaystarSnapOnAccelerator#5642530002532604610

https://picasaweb.google.com/103365672326265854011/SE30MicronXceedGrayscaleVideoWithDaystarSnapOnAccelerator#5642530020573288178

 

[JDW]

And for those of you who missed it, here is the video I made showing 2, 4, 16 and 256 colors:

Here's where we discussed the vertical line problem:

viewtopic.php?p=157184#p157184

I still am very curious if there's a way to track down which RAM chip on the Xceed board is the root cause of that vertical line problem. Without knowing that, I would potentially need to replace all the RAM chips to solve it. But the only place I can find selling those chips wants $160 for the quantity I would need. It would therefore be much cost effective, and much less work desoldering and soldering, if I could narrow it down to a single chip, versus replacing them all.