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Orange PC software

Sir Foxx

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Hello--

Finally got my orange PC card for my quadra 950. Just curious, is there a place where I can download the software to use my card? I downloaded the software from Macintosh garden, but it appears it's all .bin files.

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ArmorAlley

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What's wrong with binary files? They are easy enough to expand. BinHex, StuffIt and many others will open them for you.

Is your problem getting them onto your Q950? If you have a CD-burner on your main machine and an external SCSI CD-ROM for your Q950, then you could burn the .bin files on to a CD-ROM.

Alternatively, if you have an external USB floppy drive, copy the .bin files on to a floppy or two. You'll need the control panel PC-Exchange on your Q950 to read FAT-formatted floppies.

A NAS might work too if you have one that supports AFP.

 
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Sir Foxx

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What's wrong with binary files? They are easy enough to expand. BinHex, StuffIt and many others will open them for you.

Is your problem getting them onto your Q950? If you have a CD-burner on your main machine and an external SCSI CD-ROM for your Q950, then you could burn the .bin files on to a CD-ROM.

Alternatively, if you have an external USB floppy drive, copy the .bin files on to a floppy or two. You'll need the control panel PC-Exchange on your Q950 to read FAT-formatted floppies.

A NAS might work too if you have one that supports AFP.
Ahh, didn't think to try it with stuffit. I've never opened bin files on an old Mac before, hence my confusion. I've already got the files on my q950 using a local ftp server on my main windows desktop.

Interestingly enough, when fetch retrieves the bigger of the two files, the system hangs (mouse still works, but no response from any of the toolbars or windows) and I usually have to turn the computer all the way off and back on to regain usability. The file is there after restart, however I think it has to do with it trying to auto extract after retrieving the file. Thoughts?

 

Sir Foxx

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Question--

Got the orangePC app working. However, I cannot get a dos boot disk to work. I have tried several methods making a boot disk, but I keep getting "non-system disk or disk error, replace and press any key when ready", so I am unsure if it is me or the card, or maybe the program? I know that when I press any key, the activity light on the floppy emu flashes.

I dont have a usb floppy drive or diskettes unfortunately. Whenever I load up any of the dos images, the screen shows a bunch of garbage on the third line. Not sure if thats normal or not.

 

Sir Foxx

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Question--

Got the orangePC app working. However, I cannot get a dos boot disk to work. I have tried several methods making a boot disk, but I keep getting "non-system disk or disk error, replace and press any key when ready", so I am unsure if it is me or the card, or maybe the program? I know that when I press any key, the activity light on the floppy emu flashes.

I dont have a usb floppy drive or diskettes unfortunately. Whenever I load up any of the dos images, the screen shows a bunch of garbage on the third line. Not sure if thats normal or not.
Just need to make an edit, the floppy emu shows garbage on the third line, not the orange pc screen. Mac os can see the disk image fine, but not the card. Thoughts?

 

cheesestraws

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Just need to make an edit, the floppy emu shows garbage on the third line, not the orange pc screen
I think this is normal for non-Mac discs.  For my GEM project I've been mucking about with FAT formatted DiskCopy images (a strange beast), and that shows complete gibberish on the third line where the disc name ought to be.

 

Sir Foxx

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You can use the FreeDOS bootable floppy image from here: http://www.freedos.org/download/
I dont think freedos will work. I do not own a CD drive for my q950, and freedos requires either a cd drive or a way to mount the iso within the mac os for it to install. I got it booted using their floppy image, but I think after it formats its looking for the cd image, and it aborts the install since its not there.

 

cheesestraws

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freedos requires either a cd drive or a way to mount the iso within the mac os for it to install
if you look at the release candidate towards the top of the page, it has a floppy only installer.  FreeDOS is probably the option I'd go for, personally.

Alternatively if you want to be more period-correct (but legally questionable, which may also be period-correct depending on how disreputable one's friends were at that period, I suppose), there are loads of abandonware places that you can get MS-DOS from.  If you want the eccentric option, I probably still have OpenDOS discs somewhere :)   If the card boots OK off the FreeDOS boot disc, to the point of trying to install off the CD, probably about any DOS boot disc out there will work.

 

Sir Foxx

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if you look at the release candidate towards the top of the page, it has a floppy only installer.  FreeDOS is probably the option I'd go for, personally.

Alternatively if you want to be more period-correct (but legally questionable, which may also be period-correct depending on how disreputable one's friends were at that period, I suppose), there are loads of abandonware places that you can get MS-DOS from.  If you want the eccentric option, I probably still have OpenDOS discs somewhere :)   If the card boots OK off the FreeDOS boot disc, to the point of trying to install off the CD, probably about any DOS boot disc out there will work.
Are you referring to the boot floppy + cd rom option..? If so, that is what I am currently using. I am trying to get it to install the contents of the floppy image onto the hard drive so I dont have to go through the installer every time the computer boots up just to back out and get to the freedos prompt. I've tried formatting the "hard drive" to be an active ms dos partition and copied the contents of the floppy image to the hard drive to see if it will boot from the drive, but the card hangs after doing the ram check, unless I load the freedos floppy image.

I have thought about copying the freedos CD image onto the q950 via fetch, mounting it, and setting it as a shared drive under the orangepc settings, but the image is close to 500mb, and my mac hdd is 765mb, 565 after allocating 200mb to the orangepc card. I may have to find a larger SD card for my scsi2sd as I am running it off a spare 1gb microsd that I had laying around.

 

Sir Foxx

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No: go here http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/previews/1.3-rc3/ and download FD13-x86.zip.  This contains six floppy disc images which you can install from.
Bad news--tried the x86-BOOT image, and the floppyemu says its an unsupported image type :(

edit: looking in the instructions for the emu, it may be because the images are of the DC63 variety. However, I have no way of checking this or converting it using the method in the instructions as I do not own an OSX product.

 
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Sir Foxx

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Well, that was a nightmare--

What i ended up doing was:

extracting all the image files into a folder on my win10 computer

zipped it

downloaded maczip

retrieved it on my q950 via fetch

extracted the zipped file

mounted the orangepc drive and copied everything over

launched the freedos boot floppy and backed out of the installer

changed directories to C:/ and fired up fdauto.bat

The rest is history! Now to learn how to install windows haha

 
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