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Major Score! 8600 with Sonnet CPU, 3DFX card, Etc

MJ313

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When I used it (which admittedly was awhile ago), I had my monitor set at 640x480. Maybe someone with a bit more experience with it can chime in if they know of any other way.   Thank you for your service!

 

Rick Dangerous

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My little mic does not work apparently.  Tried all the input settings under Sounds and attempted to record and nothing.  Interesting. 

@LaPorta I'll take you up on that if you have an extra Plaintalk mic.  To be clear there is only a single 3.5mm mic input in the back of my machine. 

 

NJRoadfan

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It is, and to be honest, this is unrelated, but I'm thinking of asking my telco to give it to me, for hilarity reasons. I've got a small PBX I can pipe a BRI or a PRI into and get some neat calling functionality with.

Anyway, the trouble would be, ISDN might not be something the telco has a lot of capacity for, might require line conditioning (though probably not more than DSL), etc. 


BRI ISDN is pretty much dead in the US. Verizon killed it off in 2013 and most other RBOCs make it impossible to order and expensive if you manage to provision a line. 20 years ago a family member had a ISDN line as they worked from home...... the office paid for it. It was treated as a tariff voice service with expensive voice service rates to go with it. You were charged message units....double if you did bonded B-channel data, un-metered service was and still is expensive. Plus you had to pay for a dialup ISP on top of that, which also usually charged more for ISDN access.

The voice end was pretty boring as most people just used the POTS jacks on the ISDN terminals. I don't think I've ever since a real ISDN handset. If you have an old PBX with PRI (aka T1) trunk interfaces, you can buy a PCI/PCIe PRI card on ebay and setup an Asterisk box with VoIP trunks to play with it. BRI PCI cards exist, but they only support EuroISDN standards since it was more popular there.

 

LaPorta

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I got a DVD/CD-RW IDE from Goodwill for $5 a few months back for my PowerTower Pro. It’s amazing what you can find. Anecdotally, if you want an internal CD-RW SCSI drive(Yamaha) for free I’ll send it along with the Mic. I just gotta get rid of this stuff...

 

Rick Dangerous

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Great; thanks John, i'll take it.  Wonder if i should bother to run another SCSI cable from the motherboard (believe there is a second SCSI port), or just unplug my non CD-R drive and use that one since it will be my primary drive anyway. 

 

Rick Dangerous

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So John is hooking me up with a Mic and a Yamaha SCSI CD-R drive to replace my current.

Spent some time yesterday cleaning 20 years worth of dust out of the case...you wouldn't have believed the amount of dust in this thing.  SICK levels of grime...haha.

Tested the AV ports and played some N64...as cool as the full screen looks the frame rate suffers.  Optimally played in 640 x 480 with a "normal" size screen window.  

Also ordered two 128mb Ram DIMMS from operator headgap.  Not going to bother putting a full gig in since i've noticed in 9.1 even with several apps loaded i'm never really exceeding 256mb use. 

Other than that have been loading this thing up with games and programs from the macintosh garden and have been having a blast with it!  Played some Worms yesterday, and cleared a new Sim City 2000 map :)  

Have been messing around in Appleworks as well with some writing. 

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Rick Dangerous

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No dice on finding the card. It must have went with the 8600 when it was disposed of.
Hey thanks for looking!

Tried to Install 9.2.1 with OS9 helper, but no dice, got the old "The version of Mac OS can not be installed over the localized version of Mac OS on the Disk named "Ricks HDD".     Please choose a different destination disk, or perform a clean installation."

Pain in the rear!  Tried disabling extensions and restarting, tried all different languages, International English, Australia, England.   Any ideas? 

 

EvilCapitalist

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That almost sounds like you're trying to install an International English update on top of a North American installation, or vice versa.  The only time I've seen that localization message was when I was using SheepShaver and didn't realize that there was a difference between the two.

 

Rick Dangerous

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I read that much and think this might be the case... the updaters available on Macintosh Garden seem to be International English.

Anyone who were i can find 9.2.1 and .2 North American updaters? 

 

Rick Dangerous

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Found the US English updaters on Macintosh repository.

With the assistance of OS9 helper, updated to 9.2.1, did the old world rom firewire patch, and then updated to 9.2.2.  We are current o OS9!! 

Fun stuff....only took me most of the afternoon in between work items. lol

 

Rick Dangerous

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Debating and need your opinions----should i even bother to put another CD-R drive in this machine?

I have been burning CD's on my mac USB superdrive via IMGBurn on a Win 10 PC.   So i don't NEED to have a CDR/Toast running on here.   

Would you bother?  Or just skip it; toss the dead unit, and cover it up with a blank cover piece to return to the stock look. 

 

Unknown_K

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Debating and need your opinions----should i even bother to put another CD-R drive in this machine?

I have been burning CD's on my mac USB superdrive via IMGBurn on a Win 10 PC.   So i don't NEED to have a CDR/Toast running on here.   

Would you bother?  Or just skip it; toss the dead unit, and cover it up with a blank cover piece to return to the stock look. 
If I had a 5.25" cutout faceplate and didn't need a CDR in there I would install a MO drive or some kind of tape drive for backups. 

Blank covers from another machine will probably not match the yellowing and stick out. besides you have a much upgraded machine might as well use that bay for something exotic.

 

LaPorta

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If you already have a solution, I would use it. If I need discs, I use my iMac G4 to burn them. I always found OS 9 burning unreliable (just my experience), and using 10.4 with the iMac has given me a better experience.

 

trag

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If you already have a solution, I would use it. If I need discs, I use my iMac G4 to burn them. I always found OS 9 burning unreliable (just my experience), and using 10.4 with the iMac has given me a better experience.
I've always had pretty good experience with Toast Titanium 5.1, which I think is the last version to support Classic Mac OS.

Another option for optical drives these days is to get one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001B7XYZO/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_T1DmEbW6HR47X

which is a slot loading PATA DVDRW drive.    The supply of 5.25" half height drives seems to have dried up, but these are still available.  Unfortunately, the slim optical drives use their own connector, so one also needs a PATA slimline optical drive to 40 pin adapter.   And some way to mount it.    I like these, but their price bounces around

[SIZE=11pt]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007C1KPQY/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_23DmEbRJA2GEV[/SIZE]

I use this mount for slot loading optical drives, but it also, supposedly, has room for four 2.5" drives.   I shudder when I try to imagine the cabling if one fully packed it.

 
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