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Major Score! 8600 with Sonnet CPU, 3DFX card, Etc
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MOS8_030
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Interesting. This did not exist back when I was running my G4-upgraded 8500.
A long time ago.
Rick Dangerous
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So it's a Hitachi SuperScan Pro 17, Model #CM1786M-AD
Reccomended resolution with my system is 1024 x 786 @75hz, but looks like it will support up to 1600 x 1200 @60hz or 1152 x 870 @75hz
Rick Dangerous
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How do i switch to the the inputs on the back? Can anyone enlighten me?
Rick Dangerous
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Found it.....Apple Video Player:
Rick Dangerous
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Last update for a while...then i'll leave it be 
Speakers came in, 1997 NOS, PERFECT fit for the machine.
Speakers came in, 1997 NOS, PERFECT fit for the machine.
Rick Dangerous
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What would be an easy printer to get working on this machine? Anything I can find in the chooser with existing drivers?
Got my Clarisworks 5 updated to Apple Works 5, ready to do some word processing!
Got my Clarisworks 5 updated to Apple Works 5, ready to do some word processing!
Rick Dangerous
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For sure. Actually have a boxed ImageWriterII handy. Sure it works (those things are tanks) probably just needs a new ribbon. Maybe i'll give that a whirl just for fun even though it isn't period correct.
Was mac still making printers in 1997? I forget what year they gave up on that....lol
AlpineRaven
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Very nice looking setup.
A couple of LaserWriters were still available in 1997, as well as I think some Stylewriters. The LaserWriter 12/640 and 8500 were the newest laserwriters. The LaserWriter 630, 630 Pro and 16/600PS predate this by a good bit but loads, perhaps even most of the ones sold earlier in the '90s would still have been in service. Those are Canon EX (IIRC) engines, you can think of them as rebadged laserwriter 4s and they take the same cartridges, so it's not unreasonable to keep them running today. At least a few of those have ethernet and can speak TCP/IP as well, so you can use them on modern computers - though they're slow and use a lot of power by modern standards.
The StyleWriters Apple ever sold were mostly Canon and HP engines, some going as far to be pretty overtly re-badged HP DeskJets.
All of that stuff got discontinued upon or just before the introduction of the PowerMac G3, so you could also reasonably pair this with a Newton, a OneScanner or Color OneScanner and a QuickTake. There's also the quicktime video conferencing camera, which -- purely for interest unless you actually have ISDN or anything that can interface with it -- originally paired with an ISDN telephony add-in card, which would be something really fun to drop in a 7000 or 8000 series machine from this era, at the height of the idea of telecommuting.
Also curious: does that microphone you have attached work? It's designed for 68k Macs (outside of the AV Quadras) which used the older microphone connector and there's a good chance it doesn't. The newer large microphone is the "correct" one to use with this machine, if you can find one.
A couple of LaserWriters were still available in 1997, as well as I think some Stylewriters. The LaserWriter 12/640 and 8500 were the newest laserwriters. The LaserWriter 630, 630 Pro and 16/600PS predate this by a good bit but loads, perhaps even most of the ones sold earlier in the '90s would still have been in service. Those are Canon EX (IIRC) engines, you can think of them as rebadged laserwriter 4s and they take the same cartridges, so it's not unreasonable to keep them running today. At least a few of those have ethernet and can speak TCP/IP as well, so you can use them on modern computers - though they're slow and use a lot of power by modern standards.
The StyleWriters Apple ever sold were mostly Canon and HP engines, some going as far to be pretty overtly re-badged HP DeskJets.
All of that stuff got discontinued upon or just before the introduction of the PowerMac G3, so you could also reasonably pair this with a Newton, a OneScanner or Color OneScanner and a QuickTake. There's also the quicktime video conferencing camera, which -- purely for interest unless you actually have ISDN or anything that can interface with it -- originally paired with an ISDN telephony add-in card, which would be something really fun to drop in a 7000 or 8000 series machine from this era, at the height of the idea of telecommuting.
Also curious: does that microphone you have attached work? It's designed for 68k Macs (outside of the AV Quadras) which used the older microphone connector and there's a good chance it doesn't. The newer large microphone is the "correct" one to use with this machine, if you can find one.
CC_333
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I think ISDN is actually still a thing, isn't it?
Kinda like DSL. Technically it's still there, but people have largely forgotten about it because better things came along.
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Rick Dangerous
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Thanks all! Was wondering about the microphone myself....I know it's a gen older, but it uses the 3.5mm input jack on the back so i would think it works barring a software incompatibility?
Anyone have an idea of a good basic program to test the mic? Thanks.
Anyone have an idea of a good basic program to test the mic? Thanks.
LaPorta
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Just use the Monitors & Sound control panel to record an alert sound: easiest way there is. Cory is right: the regular PlainTalk mics were long gone by then. I believe yours will work, but the reverse is not true. The newer ones use a longer, 3-part miniplug that won’t fit the older Macs jack. Someone with more knowledge correct me: the extra contact on the newer one was either for stereo recording or rear noise cancellation ( I think it was the latter).
if you want one, I have a few I’m trying to get rid of.
if you want one, I have a few I’m trying to get rid of.
ArmorAlley
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It looks as if your stereo is just behind you. Why don't you plug the sound out from the back of the mac to the aux in on your amp? The little computer speakers are grand but if you've got 50W of amp onhand, I'd go for the rich sound of the better speakers (not to mention the amplification).
Of course, if you have young children (as the pictures on the wall seem to indicate) then Marathon may not be the best choice of game to be playing in front of small children.
Of course, if you have young children (as the pictures on the wall seem to indicate) then Marathon may not be the best choice of game to be playing in front of small children.
MJ313
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UVM alum? That's a sweet setup. I instantly fell in love with them when they were first released. Never had one though! Awesome to find such a machine in the Northeast... seems our pickings are substantially slimmer than... anywhere really. Time to plug in old vcr and watch some videos on there. Not because you'd really want to, but because you CAN! lol
That's a sweet setup. I instantly fell in love with them when they were first released. Never had one though! Awesome to find such a machine in the Northeast... seems our pickings are substantially slimmer than... anywhere really. Time to plug in old vcr and watch some videos on there. Not because you'd really want to, but because you CAN! lolIt is, and to be honest, this is unrelated, but I'm thinking of asking my telco to give it to me, for hilarity reasons. I've got a small PBX I can pipe a BRI or a PRI into and get some neat calling functionality with.
Anyway, the trouble would be, ISDN might not be something the telco has a lot of capacity for, might require line conditioning (though probably not more than DSL), etc.
Depends on what you mean by came along. I've got a VDSL2 line at 40/20 and the telco is telling me up to 140/? is available at my home, and that's before looking at upgrades to g.fast. I don't know if that involves bonding or if it's a single pair.
There's a certain area where upgrading to a better DSL technology gives you cheap immediate results ahead of The Real Answer which is to lay fiber directly to homes.
The physical layout of cable infrastructure makes it easier to just drop newer, higher-bandwidth DOCSIS devices and better responsiveness to simple in-line amplifiers relative to what needs to be done to improve the layout and speeds of a DSL system. (moving to g-fast outside of in-building installations or communities planned up front for it (bad idea) will likely require FITL-style midsized pedestals for every few houses, and by that time you've spent almost as much money installing new equipment and power delivery that you may as well just have dropped fiber in.
ISPs who bothered to lay any fiber are enjoying the ability to just replace the endpoint equipment for generational (BPOIN -> GPON -> XGPON) upgrades, but, like, that was never particularly common, unfortunately. (Also: re-factoring split factors isn't typically very difficult.)
.... anyway.
Rick Dangerous
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You have an extra 3 directional PlainTalk Mic? I think that is period correct for this machine. I'll test my 68k model tonight and get back to you asap.
Not a bad idea! Would be a long 3.5mm extension cord, but 2000w 7.1CH surround sound might be fun for doom
haha. I do have kids and my 5 year old loves playing on my old Apple's/Macs (kids games/programs of course.)I just like the look of the beige speakers i guess, they sound okay but you are right speaker technology has come a looooooong way.
Yessir, was at UVM from 05-09 after four years in the Army. Thanks and yes, pretty slim pickings up here, was very happy to find it as well at that price and with the upgrades. I'm going to plug in an Atari Jaguar soon and play some video games. Is there any way to full screen that input window on Apple Video or do i just have to change the resolution to like 640 x 480 to get it as big as possible?UVM alum?