Major Internet Problem with 9.2.2

[Mycatisbigfoot]

Hey guys, I am just seting up my imac g3 (Rev B) to use as a Mac os 9 computer, I am having a major probem When I have it on my lan it gives out a very odd ip adress

it should be somthing like 192.168.2.??? (?=What ever) but it gives out to me 169.254.131.166 and I can not get on the net with this I-mac my power mac g4 worked fine when it was running 9, (running 10.4 server atm)

I have tryed giving it an adress my self but that has no help!

thanks who ever can help me and this problem I'll give you a cookie

Edit: The reason why is I hate having to set the time all of the time, so I let it auto update it for me, in OS 9's date and time,

 

[porter]

Do you actually have a DHCP server on your network (ie an actual server or an ethernet router doing the job)?

 

[Mycatisbigfoot]

Yes, I do its my router, what my server does (PMg4)it host afp,smb, Netboot,Open directory, but not dchp, so i only have 1 dchp server on my network,

 

[porter]

Yes, I do its my router, what my server does (PMg4)it host afp,smb, Netboot,Open directory, but not dchp, so i only have 1 dchp server on my network,

And the iMac is on the same subnet as the router? Ie the only thing between the router and the iMac is either cables or a hub?

 

[Mycatisbigfoot]

yea, I have been doing this stuff for a long time, and I can get on the net with a mac book from the same line,

its something software I think, could it be a bad nic cable

 

[Mycatisbigfoot]

I know TCP\IP is not the same as apple talk, but I can get in to my server using that, (thats the only way i know)

 

[Mike Richardson]

169.254.*.* addresses are generated by the OS when it can't obtain an IP address any other way (DHCP, BootP, manually entered static IP, etc.)

Generally this means that the ethernet link is up but for some reason it can't contact the DHCP server.

 

[Mycatisbigfoot]

well that is great, I can not get on the internet unless there is a dchp server, I have tyed giving the imac one, aslo I noticed all of my os9 computers are doing this,

 

[porter]

well that is great, I can not get on the internet unless there is a dchp server, I have tyed giving the imac one, aslo I noticed all of my os9 computers are doing this,

Not necessarily so. You can still give it a static IP on your own subnet. Most routers with DHCP let you define how big the pool is and/or define static IPs within that pool.

Also what version of OT are you using? Apparently...

Open Transport 2.6 addresses DHCP issues in Mac OS 9.0.

 

[Mycatisbigfoot]

Ohh I have to look I am running os 9.2.2 Like i said but it could be out dated from my install disk, Just booting the computer at the moment

Looking....

It's 2.7.8

so its new, well for 9 it is,

Also my router has no config settings its one of the dumb ones you get with an isp, and I can not use my apple router as they told me they would disconnect my server, as it voids something with them,

 

[porter]

Also my router has no config settings its one of the dumb ones you get with an isp, and I can not use my apple router as they told me they would disconnect my server, as it voids something with them,

I don't know what you mean by "my apple router", but there is no problem with having multiple subnets (I have four all sitting behind the ADSL router), so the first one is the default one, 192.168.1.0/24, then the others are 192.168.2.0/24 etc. There is nothing wrong with having another router connected to the ISP's router and even having another layer of. Often that is what wireless access points do.

 

[Mycatisbigfoot]

yea I hate the Air port eprees or extreem (the one that has 3 network ports) but I do not want to get in shit with my DSL co, as they will not give me help if i get a problem on there network. I have noticed 9.1 worked fine, tho, so could it be something in 9.2.2 the messed it up? as i used the software update to get to the newest system. (Yes It worked)

so could there be a system problem?

Edit, I thought of restarting my Network hub as well as my card deck air port, and I think I have fixed this, as know my mac book is geting an ip, as its hooked wireless on the network so I thought on trying the networkcord.........

YEAY, thats all it was!

Thank god, ok well sorry for nothing thinking of doing this, Dumb old me Lol :lol:

 

[coius]

yea I hate the Air port eprees or extreem (the one that has 3 network ports) but I do not want to get in shit with my DSL co, as they will not give me help if i get a problem on there network.

That's the MOST RIDICULOUS thing i have EVER heard. I would tell your "Telco" that their device is not the only one. Yes, you maybe have a different one, but they cannot deny you ALL tech support because you changed your stupid router. And I would let them know that if they try to pull one over you.

Yes, you can hook an airport up to a modem. The modem does the DSL/Cable thing for you, the router is a firewall/IP Router that takes the connection and spreads it out.

The first thing I did with my Cox Communications connect was ditch their crappy router and use my airport. The airport works fine, and I was restarting Cox's router like every 5 minutes. If your DSL Modem has a router built in, then you may or may not be stuck. If it is, you can just turn off the firewall on it and take one of the ports and connect it to your Airport, or other router.

Also, you can just try to issue manual IP addresses. In the Router field, enter the IP Address of your router (10.0.1.x or 192.168.0.x) and the subnet as 255.255.255.0

 

[phreakout]

yea I hate the Air port eprees or extreem (the one that has 3 network ports) but I do not want to get in shit with my DSL co, as they will not give me help if i get a problem on there network.

That's the MOST RIDICULOUS thing i have EVER heard. I would tell your "Telco" that their device is not the only one. Yes, you maybe have a different one, but they cannot deny you ALL tech support because you changed your stupid router. And I would let them know that if they try to pull one over you.

Since he lives outside the US, they could have totally different rules to follow. Some international ISPs really nail down on regulations for what can or cannot be allowed.

Just my thoughts on this one.

73s de Phreakout. :rambo:

 

[Andrevas]

yeah I don't know how it might be in Canadia with ISP regs but that is crappy that they say you have to use their router or will deny you tech support.

do you know what model router it is though? even though it's from your ISP there still might be a status page/control panel you can view from your browser.

OT, routers running DD-WRT are the shizzle.

 

[Forrest]

>>The reason why is I hate having to set the time all of the time, so I let it auto update it for me, in OS 9's date and time,

Step one - install a fresh PRAM battery in your iMac and verify it's keeping time correctly

I suspect this your internet settings are not being maintained on bootup because of the dead battery.

If you're still having problems - come back for more advice.

 

[Mycatisbigfoot]

yeah I don't know how it might be in Canadia with ISP regs but that is crappy that they say you have to use their router or will deny you tech support.
do you know what model router it is though? even though it's from your ISP there still might be a status page/control panel you can view from your browser.

OT, routers running DD-WRT are the shizzle.

It's a 2wire, but they lock users out with there firmware, (The router address is 192,168.2.1) I've even called bell and they told me they do not want users making changes, I think they meant the pppoe setting but I could be wrong, But I am able to make changes to the wireless setting thats all, but thats

Wlan Name

Wlan Password

Wlan Chanle

Wlan Power Setting

and some other wireless setting