Installing Copland

[Patrickool93]

I didn't want to put this in Software, because it wasn't really 68k.

I decided to try Copland on my 6100(6116, Whatever, it even says Power Macintosh on the Logic Board : ). My questions are:

1. What Mac OS do I need to have installed before hand?

2. I need actual directions on how to do this. I'm stupid.

3. What do I do for debugging? I have my Centris 650 at the ready, with a serial cable, so yeah

Any help is appreciated, and, if necessarily you can move this to the Software forums

 

[phreakout]

Is Copland System 7.6.1 or OS 8.x? I can't remember.

73s 8)

 

[Patrickool93]

Itt was supposed to be OS 8

 

[LCGuy]

Here is an old@$$ thread documenting my Copland experiences, which may help.

Good luck figuring out the debugger...i never did and gave up.

 

[phreakout]

Try here.

73s 8)

 

[Bolle]

if you use copland d11e4 you shouldnt need the febugger... at least for installing and booting. on the hotline server is an installer guide on how t install copland.

 

[MacG4]

yeah ive already tried my luck with copeland on a powermac 7100 and gave up

 

[Quadraman]

Huh? How is Copeland different from Mac OS? Isn't that just a codename?

 

[Unknown_K]

It was supposed to be the OS rewrite that was dumped in favor of what turned out to be OS 8.0 (slightly upgraded OS 7.x).

 

[Quadraman]

So you can actually get a working copy of Copeland someplace?

 

[Patrickool93]

Working, but you can't really use it. If your Hot for it you can find it onLine. If you catch my drift.

 

[paws]

So you can actually get a working copy of Copeland someplace?

'copland'

 

[Unknown_K]

I believe that not much is included with the OS and I am not sure any released Apps work on it as is.

 

[MacG4]

if u can get it to install and then boot. i could get it installed but booting was a whole other story

 

[Patrickool93]

Right now I'm working on getting my 6100 back down to 7.5. : Once I get theat going I'll do more I Need to wipe the drive,but I can't get it to boot off the CD I made. It'll see it and try to install 7.5 when I am booted, but it won't install because 8.6 is on there now.

 

[Dominicus]

Yikes! Copland is buggy as old hell.seeing as it's a beta (alpha?) it shouldnt need to have any preexisting Mac OS on it tho (I've installed a few betas over time and don't ever recall doing anything but clean installs).

ps..if you do a lot of testing and/or reinstalls you really should partition your drive..you'll avoid the 'won't install' bits for starters...

 

[LCGuy]

if you use copland d11e4 you shouldnt need the febugger... at least for installing and booting. on the hotline server is an installer guide on how t install copland.

Yeah, you don't need the debugger with D11E4, only with D7E1. The problem with D11E4 though is that it crashes every minute on the minute, and every couple of boots, you have to reinstall the OS.

 

[TylerEss]

The releases we have of Copland are "pre-alpha", and they need System 7.5 to bootstrap them. They are driver-development releases to help companies write copland drivers for their hardware. How they're supposed to do that when the system doesn't stay up for more than a couple moments is a mystery to me, but who's asking me?

Copland is totally different than any other OS that runs on Macs; it looks like MacOS 8, and it's not UNIX-based, but it sits on top of Mach (like MacOS X) and (in the versions we have) doesn't do much but show a pretty-looking boot screen (big MacOS face starts out blurry and comes into focus) and crash a lot.

The ResEdit 3.0 beta that's floating around is a native Copland application and should get the fancy Copland features (multitasking and protected memory) if and when it ever runs.

 

[Quadraman]

Are there still people working on getting Copland running then?