IIfx/CD 5 year tune-up . . .

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

I don't know, I've never tested it, but I don't see why not. NuBus is WAY faster than 100Bt, so I doubt any NuBus Mac would be a limiting factor. Unless, of course, the problem boiled down to PROC or OS incompatibility. If you're interested in the results, I'll give it a whirl when I get the chance, after I RTFM first! [] ]'>

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BTW: this tangential portion of the thread isn't necessarily about the IIfx at this point. Some interest was shown in the "Full House" shot and the cards in it, so I did another round. At this point it's more about letting the troops know about another bit of the 'Ole NuBus Goodness and how to go about checking out any cards they may run across, in any slot type, with Slot Info App from the Gauge Series. It works for NuBus, PDS, and Virtual Slot spelunking. Take note of the Slot 0 info in both ScreenShots: there's provision (probably just in FirmWare) for what is likely the IIci's crappy Video SubSystem on board the fx!

There are other tools available for DeclROM snooping, maybe I'll do another round using another program that I like just as much!

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I don't think the Card in Slot C is borked, I couldn't find any obvious Setup ROM on it during a quick checkout.

Here are the Specs off the card:

Computer Eyes/Pro

by Digital Vision

P.N. FCEMCR REV. B

It has S Video and Composite Video Ports (I'm assuming inputs) and from the Production Value/Methods/Layout, I'd say it was VERY early Mac II era . . . if it was a Mac Card AT ALL! It might have been for some higher end UNIX based WorkStation that implemented NuBus differently than the Mac ToolBox Slot Manager . . . if it IS NuBus at all . . . it could very well be something else entirely, that happend to use the same EuroDIN connector.

Dunno, haven't looked for info or software for it in almost ten years! )

 

[Bunsen]

What on earth is that red card?

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

It's PURTY! Ain't it!?! :ii:

See the Slot E Info, if you bought it directly from Radius, you got the red version! [] ]'>

It's the same as the 24AC they OEM'd for Apple. [] ]'>

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Correction?

Mine actually has the Apple sticker on the solder side:

Macintosh Display Card 24 AC

On the Component side the ROM reads:

1993 Radius 24AC V1.1

The Card verbiage is:

24 Bit Accelerated Graphics I/F

Scanner's down, but I bet there's one over in the NuBus Mafia on 'fritter, or here when the maniac started the card scanning craze. [] ]'>

 

[LCGuy]

It has S Video and Composite Video Ports (I'm assuming inputs) and from the Production Value/Methods/Layout, I'd say it was VERY early Mac II era . . . if it was a Mac Card AT ALL! It might have been for some higher end UNIX based WorkStation that implemented NuBus differently than the Mac ToolBox Slot Manager . . . if it IS NuBus at all . . . it could very well be something else entirely, that happend to use the same EuroDIN connector.

I'd say that it is actually a Mac card - there was a ComputerEyes video capture NuBus card for the Mac at one point...I have a "Business Productivity" CD issued by Apple (came in a binder with some other CDs with my AppleCD 300 back in 1993) that has something to do with the ComputerEyes card, I'll have a look this afternoon, IIRC it was a demo made with Macromind Director that shows off the features of the card.

 

[Temetka]

What a sweet box!

Oh and can you upload the starship pic to the interwebs? I love it!

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

[] ]'>

. . . can you upload the starship pic to the interwebs? I love it!

[] ]'>

 

[techfury90]

Just curious, is that IRMA card 3270 or 5250 (coax vs twinax)? I'm still wondering about getting my hands on some kind of 5250 NuBus card... I have two AS/400s.

 

[ppuskari]

Hey also curious. You mentioned you had a "little box" for that Sound Accelerator II board. What does that look like? I've seen the Black and Beige small metal boxes that hook up with DB-25 cabling to the back of those cards. They had the analog one and a digital IO one, but they were both basically 1/2 rack width metal cases... Then they made the "pro" 1U rack unit with all the spiffy lights and both analog and digital io in one unit.

ooooh the power of 1989!

 

[Interceptor2]

ooooh the power of 1989!

- yeh. I was in the computer industry when all this was at its height. We were using AutoCAD v2.1 on DOS AT with coprocessor that wasn't even installed on the motherboard correctly! The big deal was redrawing times in AutoCAD, many systems redrew very slowly, there was the benchmark drawings of St Pauls church etc. and the race was on as to who could make the fastest redraw.

At the time it was all exciting, cutting edge stuff and now having some old Macs of that era to play with (at the time way too costly) I can see what the fuss was all about. These old Macs must have been red hot. Interestingly even my old Atari ST bears a strong resemblance to the Mac OS6/7 - that IIfx must have been totally space age. It seems the Mac OS was the benchmark as Windows95 onwards seems virtually an incarnation of it and all the applications bought up and amalgamated into MS.

Once I get my IIfx running again, I'll be back.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

I'm working on the Full House 3 shot while cataloging my TWO Magic Plastic Shoe Boxen of NuBus Goodness™ based upon the info in the SlotInfo reports in the Full House and Full House 2 screenshots.

Just received another pair of the Red_RadiusVidCards, two more VidCards and a Large Lot of assorted SlotFillers in transit ATM! [] ]'>

Meanwhile, I'm filling Magic Plastic Shoe Boxen of PDS, DOS on Mac & PCI Goodness! [] ]'>

Temetka, I'll upload your Starship piccie when I can do a SpreadSheet of what's been posted so far . . .

. . . in order to figure out what to stuff into my Pet IIfx/CD this time around . . .

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

For the patiently waiting Temetka:

Full House 3, NICville

NIC Lights

Full House 3: Cards

Once again, I have a card that doesn't show up in the SlotInfo Screen, but this time I think it's because the card's not working.

Apple 1989

670-0210-08

ASSY 2680-08 REV M

No biggie, it's only a Thick/ThinNet NIC (jumper selectable)

There are a pair of 32 Pin DIP ROMs (?) filling two of four (every other) sockets:

NEC USA

D43256AC-10L

9033A V315

I can't imagine worrying about this thing, it came in a huge pile of Cards I bid on to get the one gem! A Radius Color Pivot II-SE/30 Full Height Card WITH the cable I needed for RCPII/IIsi playtime! The Apple Token Ring Card and the two Apple Nics and the 16" x 8bit VidCard are pretty nice, but why the heck did apple come up with that idiotic AAUI/Dongle Kluge?

There's also an SE NIC in the batch for good measure! :approve:

 

[ojfd]

Trash80toHP_Mini,

I have some other tools that check slots and get additional info off the cards. Two are utilities by 2nd Wave and one is by Apple. If these might help, PM me. This is how they look, when started on G4/OS 9.2.2

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Better Late than never . . . :

Hey also curious. You mentioned you had a "little box" for that Sound Accelerator II board. What does that look like?

That was a mistake, I was confusing the SAII Card with my NuBus & LC PAS 16 I/O box combos. I just used the 1/4" headphone jack on the SAII for the successful StereoDuo configuration testing for the NuBusMiniDock™ & DuoBoomBoxDock™ hack projects back in the day.

The NuBusMiniDock™ hack is still underway . . . occasionally . . . as I assemble the parts necessary for the DuoDock III™ hack.

Just curious, is that IRMA card 3270 or 5250 (coax vs twinax)? I'm still wondering about getting my hands on some kind of 5250 NuBus card... I have two AS/400s.

The DCA MacIRMA Card in the Full House post is ThinNet. The Apple Token Ring 4/16 NB Card in Full House 3 has some kind of a DB-9 interface, interesting card, it has a very cool lookin' DaughterCard on board. I'll probably be doing Full House 4 later today, so I'll check to see if I have any more Mac <-> Main Frame/Mini goodies to post. This thread is going to be my NuBUS Goodness Database by the time I finish it . . . someday . . . gotta set up the copy stand and take paired shots of both sides of the collection to add for content.

I'll be bundling the batches of boards from each iteration along with cardboard markers for locating the boards that are in use in my various NuBus Macs.

Since you're in Raleigh now, a swap for some trade goods would be duck soup!

I never found a Trinitron MultiSync in your specified size range, BTW.

edit: to correct the connector spec . . . OOPSIE!

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Full House 4: PixelTown!

I finally had to take a shot of the actual screen because the system couldn't handle a screen shot of this magnitude . . .

. . . very little SneakerNet shuffling involved! :lol:

This setup is a bit of a cheat, I had all those TOBY & "High Res" unaccelerated Mac II era clunkers to get out of the way so I can test and post some spiffier NuBus Video Cards and what not in the next iteration of the Full House Project.

Full House 4: Cards

All five Apple Cards tested fine. The 1988 NuVista Card is throwing something into the Mac's video memory space, which is one of the six screens in the monitors control panel. It has to be the largest one, screen ID 3, given the card configuration. However, I have no more idea how to tap into its DB-9 I/O Connectors than I did of the same connectors on the very different 1990 NuVista Card in the original Full House post.

Maybe someday! :-/

 

[olePigeon]

What monitor is that? It's flippin' cool with that LCD at the bottom.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

I wondered when that'd get spotted, the readout is why I forgive the poor thing the slight distortion you can see in the photo.

It's a MAG InnoVision MX21F that I use mostly for diagnostics and sits on the left side of my beloved Radius PrecisionView 2150 alpha-male display CRT since 2001. The MAG has A/B switched Mac & VGA inputs so I can use a straight thru Mac Video Cable and it'll display just about anything thrown at it. [] ]'> It and the Radius have a whole bunch of features accessible using a serial connection, but I've never bothered to figure that crap out. Now that I've got the full PrecisionView Software Bundle, maybe I'll play around with it a bit.

My 68kMacintosh playstation also has the ViewSonic Graphics Series G810 I liberated, sans wobble-base, sitting in Portrait Mode to the right of the Big Dog. On the left of the MAG is my "new" SUN 21, I think the vacuum worktable (VERY HEAVY DUTY torsion box construction) from my old shop is the place that 21" CRTs go into semi-retirement. The ViewSonic 22" craigslist freebie is on the other side of the play room with the LCDs, but even at 22" the Radius still kicks its @$$! [}] ]'>

< . . . decides not to mention the other 21" CRT that's out on loan . . . >

Not much about the MAG on the first few pages of Google, but I found this teaser:

A former Best Buy, the $1,639 MAG InnoVision MX21F shed $61, but it dropped to number six due to the...

But it's comforting to know that I can get another one that's refurbished for just $231.10! :lol:

 

[olePigeon]

It'd be funny if you had 6 video cards, then had your desktop spanning 6 LCDs. Take a picture, then caption it: "Hey AMD, 1986 called. They want their Eyefinity back."

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

What's that? :?:

Thanks for reminding me to repost the conquest info for Full House 5 in the IIfx Tuneup thread.

Full House 5

Unfortunately, they didn't all want to cooperate together, so only three of the six showed up in the screenshot.

There's some anecdotal evidence and a lot of conjecture regarding this coincidence below.

PixelsGalore: Picture_3 screenshot

Here's the low down from from my own personal ROM Spelunking/Display App fave.

I actually prefer TechTool, but SlotInfo just looks so good on the screen.

The Card in Slot C had its DeclROM Slot ID info STOMPED ON by the 12" Bully in the next slot.

It's really a Radius Color Pivot Card, not as big a deal as the other 4 new-to-me VidCards, but still very nice to have.

Picture _3_Panels cropped from image above

Picture_4 from the little Red Radius Roundup:

It's interesting that the thee Radius Cards won't play nicely together. I don't have RadiusWare or the Radius Intellicolor Software/Drivers loaded on my pet IIfx. I'll have to try RadiusWare later today to see if they'll show three screens in the Monitors Control Panel. This co-incidence leaves me to Believe that the three screens showing up would be the 24AC and the SuperMac Spectrum/24, both in 1024/768 x 1Bit and then the RasterOps ColorBoard 364 in 640 x 480 x 24 Bit.

I couldn't change the first Radius Card's Color Depth.

It's also interesting that the monitors ID and positions appear to show up in the Monitors Control Panel in the order they are installed in the slots when facing the Computer, which neatly co-incides with the rising numbers of the NuBus Slot Assignments.

This bears further inquiry. I was being lazy about the testing portion of these coincidental findings due to the hurried nature of the testing/Full House project. My 24AC hadn't worked when I pulled on card from the Full House 4/Video Card Roundup/Card testing session, which did show all six screens in the Monitors Control Panel. That made me wonder if there was a conflict with the IIfx's quirky I/O setup, luckily that was coincidental, not a serious concern.

RedRadiusRoundup front side:

RedRadiusRoundup solder side

I needed to get these two new ones tested, mine's on the right/bottom of Full House 5 pic above/whatever, it's interesting that none have the same batches of components in the same places and that the ASIC has changed to further confuse the issue.

I'll post the rest of the CardPIX in a reply below to ease load times . . .

. . . and to give me time to get around to taking them and to do the further testing!

 

[olePigeon]

Eyefinity is AMD's new multi-monitor gaming platform. It's so you can play games on more than 2 monitors.