I received my AppleCD 300

[xboxown]

   Hey guys,

I have received my AppleCD 300 I hooked it directly to my Mac LC III. I ran the Apple CD media software that came preinstalled with System 7.0 it no longer prompts an error message that it cannot find a CD audio player and it ran. it even found it as scsi ID 3. The AppleCD 300 LED is solid green and when I eject it and place a media it turns to orange as it reads it and returns back to solid green.

I have placed couple of CD's that are for the Amiga and some are just normal cd burned with files for the Amiga it attempts to read it then turns solid green and no icon appears on the desktop. I have imgBurn as the software. What do I need to do..to burn a CD that AppleCD can read? Do I need a special driver for the AppleCD to work? Does the CD need to be formatted to be read by apple exclusive (apple format) where other operating systems such as Amiga, Windows, Linux, etc cannot read it? This how the appleCD function or is it a general cd player where if I burn a cd that windows can read, linux can read, amiga can read, mac OS can read it also can read? If I need a driver extension where do I get it?

If what you guys say it is true and i need a driver and it is not plug and play that means I need to wait for my disk drive to arrive and use HFS Explorer to burn a disk and then put the driver in that disk and then take that driver and transfer it to the Mac.

Thanks in advance.

 

[beachycove]

1. Try an audio CD if you have no old Mac CDs like a game or a software installer, and see whether that works.

2. I've found that I need the Toast extension to read burned CDs reliably on machines that old.

3. You have the CD drive terminated?

 

[xboxown]

1) I do not have an audio cd. So that part I cannot tell.

2) I am unsure what you mean by this? I try to download mac os 8.1.iso for 68k Mac and I burned that directly using imgBurn. After that, I placed the cd in the drive and still nothing happens.

3) I do not know what you mean by this! To answer. No. But....I will try to use the cable that came with that applecd in my mail instead of the cable I use for the other drive. Maybe the cable is the reason why it is not working.

It is not the cable.

 

[Byrd]

Try cleaning the CD lens and trial different CD-R media, burn the media at a very slow speed (2 - 4X).  Chances are the CD300 will not like working with any burnt CDs as they did not exist when the drive was released.

 

[xboxown]

You are aware that is the worst news you have ever given me right?? I was relying exclusively on applecd to transfer data between pc and mac including mac os 8.1 and now you are telling me i am hopeless? I am stuck! I can never transfer data  between pc and mac ever! What i have installed is all I got?? THANKS for the great news!!

 

[beachycove]

1. Audio CD: A thrift store will have one for a pittance, and it would be an easy way to check to see if the drive is reading readable disks. Having said that, if your machine is not otherwise booting to the desktop, it's not going to be able to read an audio CD.

2. An OS8.1 68k installation from a CD requires a floppy boot drive, so far as I know, so it requires two disks rather than one (at least, all mine do). The disk image from which to make the floppy is normally archived on the CD, but originally a physical floppy would likely have come with the CD as purchased. So you are possibly in a circular trap: no system to use to make a floppy and no floppy to install a system. If so, you need more gear, all of which would in the old days have been assumed. And yes, a newfangled burned CD may well be problematic. I have found the System Extension that came with the ancient Toast burning software program (probably Toast 3 or the like for your vintage) to be useful in these situations. Slow burning is also recommended, and may be just as good; that should be tried first. Yes, you ought to be able to do that on a modern machine.

3. An external SCSI drive must, however, be terminated at the end of the SCSI chain. There are two large sockets on the rear of your external CD drive. Into one of them, you plug the cable; into the other, a 50-pin SCSI terminator (Google it) needs to be inserted. It that isn't done, it no workie, no matter how hard you work on the method-of-burning question.

4. If you've just gotten an LCIII that has no working system installation, then the best thing might well be to trade/ buy on here and get someone to send you a small SCSI drive with a system for the LCIII already installed, or else to purchase a set of installation floppies if you want to take a chance on your hard drive, floppy drive, logic board, etc. being in working condition so as to do the installation yourself.

5. It takes time to answer these questions. Whining at the responses does not encourage anyone to help you out, nor are the people responding able to change the facts of the matter. You have hit a learning curve, to which you need to respond, and that is what tinkering with old tech entails.

 

[bibilit]

The Power Cd will only work with the proper Driver, will only work if terminated.

So connecting the PowerCD alone won't work.

http://appletothecore.me/files/powercd.php

 

[EvilCapitalist]

Building on what beachycove said and in spite of what Apple commercials from the time would have you believe, Macs of this age are not plug and play.  If the drive isn't terminated properly, you don't have the proper extensions installed, and/or you're using a disc that has a newer file system you won't get anything showing up.  Termination is easy, follow what beachycove said and plug a terminator into the bottom SCSI port on the drive.  Extensions are easy as well.  You should have the following installed:

- Apple CD-ROM - gets the drive working

- Apple Photo Access - really only necessary if you're trying to use PhotoCDs

- Audio CD Access - exactly what it sounds like

- Foreign File Access - necessary for accessing anything other than HFS / MacOS Standard

- High Sierra File Access - necessary for accessing discs formatted as High Sierra

- ISO 9660 File Access - necessary for accessing discs formatted as ISO 9660

Without the file access extensions your drive will likely only read HFS formatted CDs, if it reads anything at all.

 

[xboxown]

Would this terminator do?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/ACTIVE-SCSI-TERMINATOR-50-PIN-CENTRONICS-MALE-SCSI-1-TERMINATOR-ACTIVE-50-PIN/282477893471?hash=item41c4fe975f:g:5RQAAOSwBt5ZGH5z

 

[beachycove]

Yes.

Where are you located? I have about 50 of them here and would be happy to send you one for the cost of shipping.

 

[xboxown]

Yes.

Where are you located? I have about 50 of them here and would be happy to send you one for the cost of shipping.

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I live in Canada, BC, Surrey

Jut to point out that using a drive setup software my mac lc III can see the device. It says <CD-ROM> and says the scsi number as 4. 0-3 as for my hard drive partitions. So it sees it and the device sees my mac. In fact they talk. It just the terminator is missing and i believe my new cd-rom media is not compatible with this device. It is 700 MB with very, very, very, very, light green at the bottom. I think it will not work on this. It is as if I am putting a dvd disc in a cd rom. So I am going to purchase a 650 MB blank disc which I believe the bottom color will be different than the modern 700 MB ones. I just have one more request or help please. Doe anyone know the best company for 650 MB disc that appleCD love so much?

As for the file extensions...it just means I need to wait for external USB disk drive to arrive in another month from now so I can put the file extensions in them using HFSExplorer and take it and put it in my mac.

BY THE WAY..THANKS for the name of the extensions...I ill get them immediately and have them ready until the disk drive arrives.

You guys are the best and sorry if i came out with bad attitude not my intention at all.

 

[xboxown]

Building on what beachycove said and in spite of what Apple commercials from the time would have you believe, Macs of this age are not plug and play.  If the drive isn't terminated properly, you don't have the proper extensions installed, and/or you're using a disc that has a newer file system you won't get anything showing up.  Termination is easy, follow what beachycove said and plug a terminator into the bottom SCSI port on the drive.  Extensions are easy as well.  You should have the following installed:

- Apple CD-ROM - gets the drive working

- Apple Photo Access - really only necessary if you're trying to use PhotoCDs

- Audio CD Access - exactly what it sounds like

- Foreign File Access - necessary for accessing anything other than HFS / MacOS Standard

- High Sierra File Access - necessary for accessing discs formatted as High Sierra

- ISO 9660 File Access - necessary for accessing discs formatted as ISO 9660

Without the file access extensions your drive will likely only read HFS formatted CDs, if it reads anything at all.

Do you know where I can go to get these accessories you just mentioned?

Thanks

 

[EvilCapitalist]

They're part of the System 7.5 installation when you select CD-ROM support to be installed.  On System 7.1 or 7.0.x there should be a separate disk that has CD-ROM software.

 

[beachycove]

Check your pms.

 

[xboxown]

Check your pms.

I send you PM back! Yes! I agree with the System 7.1 disks by the way even if it cost me more shipping. Just give me until my next paid cheque and I will have all the money I need to pay for the shipping cost