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Hermes BBS install

icbrkr

Member
Adding to this old thread - is the serial # in the txt file actually required, or is the app itself cracked and the serial # is there for reference?

I did manage to apply the serial number in the txt file, but it corrupts the install so I'm assuming it's not needed?
 

Byte Knight

Well-known member
Adding to this old thread - is the serial # in the txt file actually required, or is the app itself cracked and the serial # is there for reference?

I did manage to apply the serial number in the txt file, but it corrupts the install so I'm assuming it's not needed?
I think the cracked app just lets you use and old serial number. I guess you'll find out in a month after installing if it doesn't accept outside calls... :oops:
 

icbrkr

Member
Well then, I guess we'll find out :). I'll see if I can timewarp a few months and see what happens.

It takes the serial #, but what ends up happening is that it LOOKS like it's working, but if you're posting a message in a message base, you can get about 23 characters in and it kicks you off. I thought I was nuts but I can take a fresh install, it works fine.. apply the serial, and the above happens...
 

icbrkr

Member
To make it even more interesting, if I take the serial from random places for 3.0.2 and put it in an install of 3.0, I get the exact same results. I guess unless I can somehow a registered version of 3.0-3.2, I'm stuck :/
 

icbrkr

Member
Looks like the issue goes wayyyy back to the beforetimes! I've seen conversations about clocks being configured wrong, etc, causing the issue.
Screenshot 2023-12-17 at 6.47.52 PM.png
 

icbrkr

Member
Interesting, so the crack really didn't work. I'll let Sidd know.

Thanks much. It's not so much that it didn't work it seems - it did exactly what it was supposed to do - it allowed the use of the old serial #. However, somewhere in the code of the program it's supposed to do something odd when it comes across that serial #.
 

Byte Knight

Well-known member
Thanks much. It's not so much that it didn't work it seems - it did exactly what it was supposed to do - it allowed the use of the old serial #. However, somewhere in the code of the program it's supposed to do something odd when it comes across that serial #.
Sidd's gonna take a look into it and hopefully he can at least disable the serial number check in the message editor. I believe that the program is fully functional otherwise, correct?
 

icbrkr

Member
Sidd's gonna take a look into it and hopefully he can at least disable the serial number check in the message editor. I believe that the program is fully functional otherwise, correct?

Because I have absolutely no life, I spent a couple of hours going down the rabbit hole of old Usenet posts to see what was going on at the time.

Depending on who was posting, the message area was definitely the issue, and other people said that it would break your OS, reset your PRAM, steal your firstborn, etc. Possibly, at the very least, cause the system to become unstable.

Just based on my own observation, it SEEMS to just be the message bases. I was able to setup externals with no issues (some crashed, but that's due to incompatibilities between versions). File areas seem to work fine.

If you take that same serial # and put it on version 3.0 instead of 3.1.1, if you post a message, the bar across the message that shows you how far you can type per line 'shrunk' from 80 columns to about 23. When you hit the end of that bar, it crashes.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 

Byte Knight

Well-known member
Because I have absolutely no life, I spent a couple of hours going down the rabbit hole of old Usenet posts to see what was going on at the time.

Depending on who was posting, the message area was definitely the issue, and other people said that it would break your OS, reset your PRAM, steal your firstborn, etc. Possibly, at the very least, cause the system to become unstable.
Haha! Thanks for going down the rabbit hole. Now that I think about it, I ran into the same issue with the message posting crash but just thought I had an unstable copy of the program. That's one of the reasons I went with v3.5.11 running as a game server on my BBS instead of v3.1.1.

Were you ever able to find more door games than what I did?
 

icbrkr

Member
Haha! Thanks for going down the rabbit hole. Now that I think about it, I ran into the same issue with the message posting crash but just thought I had an unstable copy of the program. That's one of the reasons I went with v3.5.11 running as a game server on my BBS instead of v3.1.1.

Were you ever able to find more door games than what I did?

Yup, and while going down the rabbit hole I started downloading (and still am) shareware CDs and such that have externals on them. Some might be useful, some not, but I have about 30 sitting on the board right now and maybe 100+ sitting in a dir.
 

Byte Knight

Well-known member
Yup, and while going down the rabbit hole I started downloading (and still am) shareware CDs and such that have externals on them. Some might be useful, some not, but I have about 30 sitting on the board right now and maybe 100+ sitting in a dir.
Nice! Any chance you could zip up that directory and send it my way?
 

icbrkr

Member
As promised, here's some externals. It's still a work in progress, so it's a big mess for now.
 

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cloverskull

Active member
I just noticed this on my own local testing instance :p

I'm curious why so many of the externals/addons simply don't work at all - they either crash the BBS or the OS entirely. Presumably at some point they worked, so it's puzzling.

3.1.1 does seem like the ideal version if running doors is the goal since it has the greatest compatibility. I'd love to be able to run this in Basilisk and have it accept incoming telnet connections but can't wrap my head around how to get that done. I guess I'd need a virtual serial modem in the host OS or something?
 
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