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External Floppy disk qurstion

Johnnya101

Well-known member
Hi all,

I'm getting a compact mac soon, an SE/30 (hope the deal goes through).

So I'm going to buy an scsi2sd in the future. But in the meantime I need a way of getting software on the thing.

I went on amazon and found a 10 pack of maxell disks, 1.44, and a USB drive. Someone even said they used the disks in the reviews for an SE! Anyways. My pc has an OS X virtual machine. I'll be creating floppies in that. Is it possible to do this with the newest OS X still? Will it work fine the the drive below?

Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E9MD700/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A29Y8OP2GPR7PE&psc=1

 

olePigeon

Well-known member
I'm pretty certain current versions of OS X no longer have support for floppy drives, USB or otherwise.

 

techfury90

Well-known member
Even if they do, I would not use OS X with a USB floppy. Here's why: it never supported low level formatting disks. You may say "sure, I can erase a disk in Disk Utility!", but it just writes over the file system structures. It will not write new IDAMs, etc. like a full format operation does, which can cause reliability issues with old media.

 

Johnnya101

Well-known member
I ordered them. I'll try using windows then. Will windows mess up disk images when writing to the disk?

 

techfury90

Well-known member
The more important question is if your SE is a SuperDrive/FDHD model. If it's not, you will need an old Mac to make the disks. There is no getting around this, as 800k disks cannot be written on a PC in a format an 800k SE can read.

Edit: oh wait, saw it was an SE/30. Yes, you can make those disks on Windows with a USB FDD.

 
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Anonymous Freak

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Two options:

1. Format the floppies as "Mac" on the SE/30, then use them in OS X via a USB floppy drive (yes, they will work - you can't format HFS/Mac format on OS X, but you can read/write just fine.)

2. If you have PC File Exchange installed on the SE/30, just use the disks in FAT/DOS/Windows format.

For writing disk *images*, you can use dd in the command line in OS X (or any UNIX/Linux) to write an .img file to the floppy drive, although it seems hit-or-miss for me.

 

Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
Staff member
Moved to compact mac subforum.

I believe USB diskette drives should still work in Sierra. A webcomic artist recently connected one to a Mac with Type C ports and was able to fit a bunch in.

The real challenge might be getting software that fits on a single floppy, or using an archival format that the Mac can understand and join multiple segments. (Stuffit Deluxe can do the thing, but you need a source of split archive files.)

 

Mac128

Well-known member
Hi all,

I'm getting a compact mac soon, an SE/30 (hope the deal goes through).

So I'm going to buy an scsi2sd in the future. But in the meantime I need a way of getting software on the thing.

I went on amazon and found a 10 pack of maxell disks, 1.44, and a USB drive. Someone even said they used the disks in the reviews for an SE! Anyways. My pc has an OS X virtual machine. I'll be creating floppies in that. Is it possible to do this with the newest OS X still? Will it work fine the the drive below?

Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E9MD700/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A29Y8OP2GPR7PE&psc=1
You don't need an OS X virtual machine, what works better is something like a Mac OS emulator like Basilisk II, or SheepShaver for Windows. 

There's a few tutorials here, geared toward a Mac, but they will give you the idea:

http://www.mac128.com

 
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