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Clarisworks, Sit Extractor, And Internet Sharing

benjgvps

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I just finished making a Mac to PC null modem cable and installed stargate on my etower with windows 2000 and my powerbook 150 with mac os 7.5.3 and was hoping to do a few things. I need to find a plug-in for openoffice to open clarisworks files. I need a .sit file extractor to extract the files I got from Macintosh Garden that is not stuffit expander because my system locks up when i try to expand them. Also if possible I need to share the internet connection from my PC to the laptop over the serial connection I just need it for browsing this site and basic e-mail and maybe downloading things from some small websites.

 

Flash!

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Hey cool you've made the cable [:D] ]'>

I'm curious, how does stargate actually work. I mean how does it make the connection? Does the Mac see a a new device in the Chooser for instance? Or does it work more from the PC-side of things.... Got any screen shots?

What version of stuffit are you using?

 

benjgvps

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The way it works is on both computers it creates 2 folders (outgoing and incoming) and the programs then you run the program on both computers and drag files into the folder and wait for it to start or you can press the "send files now" button. Just make sure you turn off appletalk because it will use the serial port on your mac and you won't be able to connect to th other computer.

As for stuffit expander I'm using version 5.5 (it should be able to expand). I just found out that allume (the stuffit expander company) has an ftp server with LOTS of versions of their software. I have tried 6.01 though the program won't start. If anybody can can make a disk image of flight simulator, sim city, and/or lemmings that would be great.

Does anybody know of a windows ppp daemon that will run on 2000? That would make my day!

P.S. It was a pain in the @$$ find the materials I needed to build the cable though I was SUPER lucky to walk to the bagged goods part of the thrift store and find an apple serial cable (I almost died).

 

pee-air

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Also if possible I need to share the internet connection from my PC to the laptop over the serial connection I just need it for browsing this site and basic e-mail and maybe downloading things from some small websites.
You sure are a glutton for punishment, huh? What does the PowerBook have? A 16MHz 68030 processor and maybe 10MB of RAM? I couldn't even imagine trying to browse the web with that. Not with anything graphical anyway. A text browser might suit your purposes though. Something along the lines of WannaBe.

 

The Macster

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You sure are a glutton for punishment, huh? What does the PowerBook have? A 16MHz 68030 processor and maybe 10MB of RAM? I couldn't even imagine trying to browse the web with that.
Yes, I recently tried browsing this site with my PB520, which is an '040 (but only 8 MB Ram), and it took over 10 minutes of thrashing to load each page :(

 

pee-air

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I've just reached the conclusion that there aren't any good text browsers for the Classic Macintosh. MacLynx is an awful port of the *nix text browser Lynx. It's crippled, slow, and awkward to use. WannaBe seemed promising, but it appears that its author has abandoned it. It's too basic in its present form to be of any real use. WannaBe doesn't support forms or file downloads.

So what is the best option for text browsing the web on a Classic Macintosh? Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, A/UX, or a telnet/terminal connection from your Classic Mac to a machine running a *nix and the Links text browser.

To the original poster:

I don't know of a ppp daemon for Windows, but I'd like to suggest an alternative. If you have access to another Macintosh, any old 68k or ppc Mac with a 68020 or better, you could run Apple IP Gateway on it. That way you could use your old LC, LC II, LC III, II, IIci, IIsi, IIfx, etcetera as a means of getting your Ethernet-less Macs on the LAN/Internet via the serial port/LocalTalk.

I find Apple IP Gateway to be the ideal solution for getting the old compact Macs on the LAN/Internet. Personally, I use an old Macintosh LC with 10MB RAM and a 40MB hard drive to run as a dedicated IP Gateway. The Classic, Classic II, and SE/30 connect to the Internet via PhoneNet adapters connected to the LC's printer port. Works extremely well. [8D]

 

benjgvps

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Well that is a good idea....Though I don't have any more macs (Its very painful) and the powerbook has a 25mhz processor and 4 mbs of ram (though I have ramdoubler). Right now I don't care about the internet on it I JUST WANT MY GAMES TO WORK! If anybody knows where I could get a disk image of the fallowing (it does not need to fit on a floppy) simcity, flight simulator, lemmings, and wigit workshop or a program that expand .sit files.

 

Flash!

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As for stuffit expander I'm using version 5.5
I reckon you need a lower version. Stuffit Lite 3.5(?) comes to mind. There is another program you can use but I can't remember what it's called!

 

benjgvps

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I actually have stuffit lite 3.5 as well though it also won't work. it says "Simcity.SIT does not appear to be a stuffit archive. Continue working with is? Yes No. If I click Yes it says "This archive has been corrupted. You may be able to unstuff some of the items but will no longer be able to change this archive." This is not my idea of fun. Well good luck trying to remember that program name.

 

benjgvps

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Hmmm. Well I found a few utilities in my "Mac Stuff" folder on my other computer. I haven't tried any of them though I have a few so one might work. Though when I tried to extract them in basilisk 2 though the the ".SIT" icon would not show up on anything downloaded from macintosh garden.

 

The Macster

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If you downloaded the .sit file using Windows then you quite often don't get the icon and it won't open when double-clicked on the Mac. It doesn't matter though, you just have to open the archive from inside StuffIt Expander.

 

benjgvps

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Yes though on all files I download from macintosh garden give me a "corrupted file" error or just lock up my system with the hard drive revving. I also have stuffit expander 3.1, lite 3.5, 4.0 and 5.5.

 

jdowdell

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I just tried for several hours today to get the Mac Garden SimCity2000 .sit to unstuff, with your trouble. It turns out not all the Mac Garden files are busted like this - consider Oregon Trail. But a surprisingly large number of them were.

I happen to have the original installers on floppy. Was really hoping I wouldn't have to bend over backwards to get the data off of them; no longer have the mac they're supposed to run on. Is there a different site than Mac Garden to be going to?

 

benjgvps

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If your trying to extract them on a 68k mac it (Sadly) won't work. Though if you use an iMac for example to extract them and make a disk image you can put them on an older Mac. If you don't have a newer mac running Mac OS 8 or higher I can PM you a disk image (Large but it can be extracted on an older Mac).

 

benjgvps

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Never mind about that now, I got those working when I got my iMac and used that to extract them. I also found out that I can't do internet sharing with my PC because Macs have a different serial chipset to do things like connect to the internet. If only I had one of those boxes that came out with the original iMac to hook them up to localtalk. I also solved the word processor problem by using Microsoft Word 4 and saving as RTF files with a .rtf extension so Windows can read it. My PowerBook 150 is now a school machine when I need to type a project (Or something planned) when the weather is not so cold (Can't wait till spring!).

 

register

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Does anybody know of a windows ppp daemon that will run on 2000? That would make my day!
Hello,

tough work, soldering this cable, isn't it ? But you get used to it. I made some of these in different flavours to keep some old macs alive and useful in a scientific laboratory. (They run instrument controller applications written in HyperCard.)

You might like to look for an scsi-ethernet adaptor (10BaseT) and hook your PowerBook directly to a router. The manufacturer Asante provides appropriate driver software, still:

http://www.asante.com/support/legacy/Bridges/EN_SC.asp

The following page gives some pictures and written information about this kind of device (German):

http://www.oldmac.de/netzwerk11.html

Different connecting cables were shipped with the adaptors. Be sure to get an appropriate HDI30-connector if you want to use this with an old PB. (Note: there are different HDI30 to DSub25 or Centronix50 adaptors available. Some are only for connecting the PB in disk mode to another computer, some are to attach scsi peripheral devices to the PB, some are switchable to either mode.)

There are lots of examples on how to set up machines like a classic PB for useful purposes (like a mail server). Have a look at the following pages:

http://servers.ld8.org/servers.html

http://www.fenestrated.net/~macman/68kMail/

Kind regards

 
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