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Apple IIc label

CC_333

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@olePigeonYou really are a font nerd, aren't you? Haha :lol:

I'm not really into all the ins and outs of what make up fonts, typefaces, and such, but I do appreciate a good, easy to read font.

That being said, there are some fonts I find kind of ugly (the helvetica font in Mac OS 8 and 9, fot instance; I've NEVER liked that font much), and some I do like (Charcoal, Geneva, and a few others in classic Mac-land, and MS Sans Serif for Windows).

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Why is the word "The" appended onto "Apple IIc"? I don't generally see computer labels use the definite article in model names....

Guess it's just an old 1980's Apple quirk.

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BadGoldEagle

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Wow ole, thanks!

It looks so good compared to my unfinished canvas.  8-o

There’s nothing of interest left on the case but I’d say this is a 1985 machine, judging by the date stamp on the monitor. I have no idea how long ROM 255 units lasted until they were eventually replaced by ROM 0 machines... That label might very well come from a ROM 0 IIc. I don’t mind having the wrong type of label (normally I would though) because I’ll probably update the ROM to gain smartport fonctionality some time in the near future. Genuinity is not key for once.

 

ArmorAlley

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I've been hoarding fonts lately.  You can often find them for really cheap on eBay.  My biggest conquest was the original Open Type edition of the complete Adobe Font Folio for $160.  A friend of my parents works for Adobe and he got me an old copy for cheap.  I guess they were liquidating it because they now have over 2000+ fonts in the latest edition.  It's not like fonts go bad.  :p  I also bought the Adobe Pro Font collection, but that wasn't as impressive.  Only has like 10 fonts, but they are ridiculously extensive.  I guess that's why they're "pro" fonts.  Not to mention the various Apple font collection releases and Microsoft TrueType collections I bought cheap at a surplus store.  I also have a large collection of BitStream fonts that came on something like 12 floppies.  I need to dig them out and image them, plus a few odd Adobe fonts on floppy disk that are duplicates on my CD.  The disks look cool, though, so I might recreate the labels and file my fonts away on floppy for the heck of it.  It certainly would look cool if anything else.

I don't wanna be without fonts. :D
I was big into type in the mid-1990s. I amassed a large hoard, printed out whatever samples I could, read books of kerning and leading.

Congrats on the Adobe Font Folio. I llusted after that for a long while.

 

dcr

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I was big into type in the mid-1990s. I amassed a large hoard, printed out whatever samples I could, read books of kerning and leading.


Same here.  I'd always be looking at the type used on printed items and identify the typefaces used.  And I bought typefaces whenever I could.  A new FontHaus catalog was always a treat.

And, since I worked in printing, well, most printers had a dozen or two typefaces to choose from.  But when customers came in and asked what typefaces we had available to use for their flyer, I'd bring out a 2-inch three-ring binder filled with type selections.  And then I'd have to go grab Volume 2, a second 2-inch three-ring binder filled with selections.

And then it was like, um, just use what you think will look best.

But then font companies started to get all sorts of crazy with licensing . . .

 

olePigeon

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You can buy those dubiously legal "zOMG!  5000 FONTS!!!" CDs.  I don't know how they get away with it.

 

dcr

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Typefaces cannot be protected by copyright (at least in the U.S.).  But font software can be and is protected by copyright.

That creates an opportunity to copy the look of a typeface as long as you're not copying the font software itself.  (By "font software" I mean the digital font itself.)

Font names are sometimes trademarked too which is why "copycat" fonts might have a similar (or not) name, so long as it's not a confusingly similar name.

I imagine some of the"copycat" fonts might be created by scanning prints of the original fonts and converting the scans to outlines, which will result in a messier outline than creating the outline from scratch.  But it would be an easier method of reproducing large quantities of typefaces.

I believe some of the copycat font companies have been caught creatively editing the font software itself to make it appear as though they created it rather than duplicated it.  I haven't seen confirmation of this but I did see one site claiming this is more difficult to do with Open Type fonts as Open Type apparently allows for encrypted and/or hidden data that would make it easy to spot a copy, which were features unavailable in PostScript or TrueType formats.

 
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