7600/120, AppleVision 1710, and Other Goodies

[John8520]

Very lucky craigslist find, been looking for some beige for a while. Out of town visiting family and I decided to cruise CL and I stumbled across this kit, very reasonably priced. Bought it from the original owner, an ex-freelance graphic/web designer who used this as her workhorse up until 2001. She gave me free reign over the included software, licenses, and data. I'm going to archive the software as best I can for personal use, and nuke the data.

Overall, the bundle included:

- 7600/120, with original 1.2GB drive, no cards. 64MB RAM (2x16, 4x8), CD & FDD. it's running what I believe to be the original 7.5.3 install. Has to be nuked, the system folder is an absolute mess.

- - Installed software includes: photoshop, illustrator, quarkexpress, macromedia, bbedit, lots of little utilities and whatnot that will definitely be preserved. TONS of data. HDD is totally full.

- AppleVision 1710, thankfully not one of the impacted units. Seems to be working just fine. Beautiful screen.

- Apple Design Keyboard (Thailand), Kensington Turbo Mouse (missing ball), apple mouse pad (pretty cool, never owned one)

- external Zip100 drive, w/ original cables and software. About 30 zip100 disks, all with data (needing to be nuked...)

- Epson Stylus Pro printer. Looks to be in good shape, I'm curious to see if I can find any ink carts for it. Uses an interesting design.

- Some sort of flat bed scanner, not sure the model right off the top, pretty generic.

- ADB drawing tablet, no pen. Not sure the make, I don't think it's wacom.

And then lots of CDs, floppies, and zip disks. Software installers, demo stuff, data, etc. Has the original 7.5.3 install CD, disks for the AppleVision, CD for scanner, disks for printer. A few font disks.

Haven't gone through everything, using a trackball without the ball is an interesting challenging. Once I get it home and setup properly I'm going to pop my SCSI2SD in it and do a fresh install of 7.6.1. I also have two more 64MB sticks on the way.

Super cool to get a box like this from the original owner, with all the original work and software on it. I'll add more pictures once I get settled and generate a list of the software/media included in case anyone is interesting.

Also, I'll be looking for either a G3 or a faster 604 if anyone has anything on hand they're looking to sell.

EDIT - form photo uploader keeps spinning the photo, so IDK.

 

[John_A]

That is a proper beige setup, a good find!

(A Side note:

I find it a bit discouraging when I think about all the user data that have been lost/deleted from old Macs. Its of course the right thing to do when its someone elses property. But a big part of the real Macintosh legacy, to me, is all the projects that were made on Macs and the impact the Mac had in news/ads/editing/graphics industry.

Its like saving the book cover, but ripping out all the written pages.)

 

[John8520]

Thanks! I'm quite excited, especially about the monitor. The only Apple beige CRT I've ever had was a MultiScan 15, which isn't/wasn't all that great. 

Regarding the data, though. You raise a good point - users' data should be removed, though many macs (especially the higher end macs from earlier days) were used as creative machines. 

With this particular machine (and pile of disks) I'm in a position I've never been in before. Usually I would nuke all the media without thinking twice, if the owner hadn't already, out of respect for their privacy. In this case, though, the owner actually invited me to look through it in detail, and to share any content I might find interesting, as long as their name stayed attached to it in some fashion. I've never experienced anything quite like it.

EDIT - as an aside, again regarding data: I've found a SHOCKING amount of personal/private data in a few PCs I've recently found at thrift stores. One was a receptionist's PC in a dental office and there was an alarming amount of PII/PMI/HIPPA violating goodness on there. I physically destroyed the drive, but dang! It's scary to think about how easy this stuff can spread, and without anyone's knowledge...

 

[Byrd]

Nice score John8520 - I recently also sought out a large Apple branded monitor and chanced upon a 1710 and 1710AV, from two different people within a couple of weeks of each other.

From what I've read, the 1710 was a terribly unreliable monitor from shipment but a few good ones made it through and were rock solid.  In my instance the 1710AV I was given had PSU issues and very brittle plastics; I ended up being able to make one good 1710AV and happy to see it working.  I kept the PSU from the 1710AV for future repair/backup.

Interesting that the seller wanted you to look through her files (be wary to me that says there is some questionable stuff to see!) - like you I've come across countless computers full of personal info and I usually have a quick laugh then eradicate the lot with a format and OS reinstall.

JB

 

[ArmorAlley]

Hi John,

I have a spare ball for the Kensington TurboMouse. My darling son hid mine and I only found it after I had bought a new ball from a good user on this very site. I can you sell my ball, if you like (although I am in Europe...), I can buy your TurboMouse base unit, if you are willing to sell it or you can try out a billiard ball. They are the same size, if somewhat heavier.

All the best,

aa

 

[olePigeon]

I believe you can use a pool/billiard ball as a replacement.

 

[John8520]

I believe you can use a pool/billiard ball as a replacement.

Interestingly enough, this is true! The Turbo Mouse uses a 2.25" (or 57mm) ball, same as standard sized billiards balls. 

Seeing as I don't have one of those just laying around, however, I ended up picking up a cheap "as-is" PC-serial version of the trackball, with a ball, that I'm going to swap over.

 

[CharlesT]

I have both a 132mhz and 200 MHz 604 cards you can have for shipping, although i’d Hold out for a G3. 7600 is a great machine, mine has been in continuous operation since new. I use it on my workbench to test all sorts of stuff for other machines. It’s bullet proof and the perfect bridge machine between OSX machines and old 68k stuff.

 

[John_A]

When the g3 came out, tests indicated a 20% performance gain at the same clockspeeds. Noticable? In 1998, yes.. but now, not that much. Its just slow vs a fraction slower..

But I always had a soft spot for the 604 from when I got my Power Computing clone. But 9600/350 was the real dream that never became real..

 

[reallyrandy]

I have billiard ball in my Turbo. It's slightly smaller than the stock ball but it still works fine. Maybe a cue ball would work better? I think the cue is slightly larger than the rest of the balls.

According to Wikipedia:

"Coin-operated pool tables such as those found at bars historically have often used either a larger ("grapefruit") or denser ("rock", typically ceramic) cue ball"