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  • Are there modern replacements for old PB 180 heatsinks, and how would you go about applying them? My preconceived notion is that heatsink technology has improved over the past 30-some years, and perhaps it would be beneficial to slap on new ones (performance boost[?], less risk of toasting). I don't plan on overclocking.
    sstaylor
    sstaylor
    Did the 180 use those weird rubbery silicon heat sinks? Because I've seen them on Aliexpress
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    That sounds about right. Drop a link if you can find them.
    desertrout
    desertrout
    I think any 5mm thick silicone thermal pad should work - lots on ebay etc
    Wow, I've already achieved "Well-known member" status on this cult/amazing forum. I've only left 45 messages here and I'm probably not that well-known either! And to top that all off, I only own an LC, joined last summer, and am NOT an Apple fan at all. My Apple products are either hand-me-downs or vintage, because somewhere down the line Apple turned evil and stopped making products that last a long time.
    robin-fo
    robin-fo
    My Mid-2010 MBP lasted for 11years… It really was worth its price. I hope my new M1 Pro MBP will be the same.
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    IIRC Weren't there incidents where older Intel Macbooks suffered from video chips that just randomly die? Not to mention other disgusting Macbook engineering faults I've heard about before. Then again, my hand-me-down mid-2011 iMac is still working today.
    3lectr1cPPC
    3lectr1cPPC
    Only some of them - the 2011s, and the Early 2008s were the worst offenders I believe.
    Anyone know anything about that company called Mirror? AFAIK they made the Powervision, a mod for video-out-less PBs like the 170 to display on an external monitor, they also made CRTs.
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    There's no information on this company yielded by a cursory Google search since they're probably out of buisness and their name is really generic (just like "Meta"). The reason I want to know more about Mirror is that I'd really like to reverse-engineer the Powervision and thought aout contacting former Mirror employees.
    Iesca
    Iesca
    Assuming it's the same Mirror, they also made the Magnum 800k External Floppy Drive and some external hard drives. Their full name is Mirror Technologies.
    Does m68k Linux/BSD support rendering images via the framebuffer? If so, you could run w3m to surf the net on HTTPS and have it display images.
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    I guess so, since X accesses the framebuffer directly and I've seen it run on m68k NetBSD.
    I had the strangest dream last night. I saw Windows 7 run on a 68k Mac, but without any of the trademark UI animations. The System control panel said it was running on a Motorola 68030.
    Iesca
    Iesca
    Anything like the OSX-on-a-Centris experiemnt from c.2004?
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    I don't know what you mean by that... but in the dream it ran fairly fast.
    Iesca
    Iesca
    Someone years ago "installed" OSX Panther on a Centris by first installing Linux, then emulating a PPC using PearPC. It took hours for the apple logo to appear, and reportedly it would take a whole week for it to finish booting...
    Man, Powerbook 1xx RAM is expensive. Screw that, I'll just make my own! The most difficult part is sourcing the RAM chips themselves...
    3lectr1cPPC
    3lectr1cPPC
    Silicon insider makes new modules and sells them on eBay, custom new pcbs and such.
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    What about using higher capacity chips? Those Hitachi chips are only 512k a pop.
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    https://www.jagshouse.com/ram_guide.html is a good guide on old Mac RAM. However, PowerBook RAM isn't listed here. I counted the pins and it seems that PowerBook 1xx RAM cards are 70-pin, not 72-pin like later model desktop Macs. So is PowerBook 1xx RAM similar enough to those 72-pin Simms?
    What’s the max voltage for PowerBook 140-style batteries?
    pfuentes69
    pfuentes69
    I just made this with two packs of 5xAA
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    I seems to do its job... at least for now. But the battery level is not accurate at all (I think because how these newer batteries keep the voltage when discharging)
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    How do you wire up those cells as to not give all 12v at once (load balancing)? Newbie here...
    Also, I remember seeing a YouTube video where somebody made a 3d-printed battery replacement for the PB 1xx series and filled it with removable rechargable AAs, I'd like to watch it again but I can't find the video.
    pfuentes69
    pfuentes69
    I just put the two packs in parallel... I guess there can be fancier solutions, but I just wanted something simple and cheap...
    Can you, with modifications, compile Classilla for Mac OS 8.1?
    Is there a way to get video out of, say, the Powerbook 170 without having to hunt down a rare 3rd party card? Maybe a modern recreation? It doesn't look very hard to make one.
    3lectr1cPPC
    3lectr1cPPC
    The only video out solutions I'm aware of for the 170 are the one that goes over SCSI, which may be able to be emulated, and then one other 3rd party mod that goes out through the left hinge cover, with a custom made part. They're both very rare though. The internal one would obviously be ideal, but you'd have to track one down to try and reverse engineer it.
    Can you use AppleScript 1.1 to make a HTTP request? And is it possible to use HTTPS in a 68k application?
    AeSix
    AeSix
    I'm going to say that HTTPS isn't going to be possible (though could technically happen) due to the length of time even an '040/40 would take to deal with the encryption. Either you'll grow old and Ryzen 5950s will be "retro" - or more than likely, the connection will timeout.

    THAT SAID... a proxy box to stream the parsed page to the mac, à la frogfind, may work.
    Idea: Use a Raspberry Pi Pico W in your BlueSCSI V2. Then modify the Pi's firmware to emulate a serial modem with a usb to serial adapter.
    J
    joshc
    Cheaper is not always better...
    Phipli
    Phipli
    Also, I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but... The Pi can already be used as an emulated PPP device... You just need a $2 Serial to UART adapter. People already do that. Is that all you mean? You can also use ESP based devices to do the same.
    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    You could use UART, but i'm sure doing it over USB is a better option in a BlueSCSI.
    Anybody have tips on how to make your site work with ancient browsers? Like the great 68k Netscape 2.02 and iCab 2.99. Specifically I'd like to know how to disable SSL for old browsers that don't support it, like what Macintosh Repository does (did?).
    LaPorta
    LaPorta
    Use PageMill 2.0 or some such for compatibility.
    Daniël
    Daniël
    I personally just don't have SSL/TLS enforced on my site, eg. if you go to HTTP, that's what you'll get. MR does something like UserAgent recognition to automatically forward to non-HTTPS, but that's not necessary for it to work.
    C
    cheesestraws
    yeah I personally wouldn't bother with per-UA redirection unless I had a good reason to.
    Do they still make Motorola 68040 processors? The 68000 seems very cheap. I’m trying to figure out how you’d go about making your own PDS upgrade cards.
    Phipli
    Phipli
    @luRaichu - might be something like because getting a product certified when someone's life depends on it is expensive. The cost of the approvals process is often many times over the cost of parts.
    Phipli
    Phipli
    Yeah, they're hundreds of dollars :


    luRaichu
    luRaichu
    Screw this crap guys, let’s found our own company, reverse engineer an old Motorola chi- nvm that’s been done already, buy silicon wafer machines, make 680x0s and sell them to the retro mac community, along with ready-made PDS cards. We will make a killing 😆
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