StuffIt Expander 5.5 super slow on an SE/30?

Sani · Apr 11, 2024

Hey everyone, I finally got my SE/30 all put together, and I'm very happy with the results. Blue MacEffects case, ROM-inator II, 64 megs of RAM, and a BlueSCSI mounted in the expansion slot so I can access the SD card. I'm getting a lot of software installed on it, mostly games but also some larger applications, and I'm noticing how sloooow StuffIt Expander 5.5 is on this machine. It's been working on a 25 MB .sit of HyperCard 2.4.1 for more than two hours now, and it is making progress, but it's still only like 60% done.

Is there something weird with my configuration that's causing this? Do I need to give StuffIt Expander more RAM? (I'll try that once it's done with HyperCard.) Or does it just run this painfully slow on all 68030 Macs?

Phipli · Apr 11, 2024

Sani said:
Hey everyone, I finally got my SE/30 all put together, and I'm very happy with the results. Blue MacEffects case, ROM-inator II, 64 megs of RAM, and a BlueSCSI mounted in the expansion slot so I can access the SD card. I'm getting a lot of software installed on it, mostly games but also some larger applications, and I'm noticing how sloooow StuffIt Expander 5.5 is on this machine. It's been working on a 25 MB .sit of HyperCard 2.4.1 for more than two hours now, and it is making progress, but it's still only like 60% done.

Is there something weird with my configuration that's causing this? Do I need to give StuffIt Expander more RAM? (I'll try that once it's done with HyperCard.) Or does it just run this painfully slow on all 68030 Macs?

This happens when someone with a more modern computer compressed it with the very compressed option instead of the "fast" option.

It's just a fact of life when you're rocking a 16MHz processor.

Hey, at least they didn't compress it using a Mac OS X tool that splits the resource fork in a manner that needs Mac OS X to fix, and you only found out after decompressing it for an hour.

zigzagjoe · Apr 11, 2024

Sani said:
Hey everyone, I finally got my SE/30 all put together, and I'm very happy with the results. Blue MacEffects case, ROM-inator II, 64 megs of RAM, and a BlueSCSI mounted in the expansion slot so I can access the SD card. I'm getting a lot of software installed on it, mostly games but also some larger applications, and I'm noticing how sloooow StuffIt Expander 5.5 is on this machine. It's been working on a 25 MB .sit of HyperCard 2.4.1 for more than two hours now, and it is making progress, but it's still only like 60% done.

Is there something weird with my configuration that's causing this? Do I need to give StuffIt Expander more RAM? (I'll try that once it's done with HyperCard.) Or does it just run this painfully slow on all 68030 Macs?

This is normal. That's a huge .sit on a slower mac, and on top of that, later stuffit archive algorithms tend to be slow on any 68k. An accelerator will help speed it up, though it will not resolve it.

You could use an emulator to decompress it (still slowly, but much faster) or use a PowerPC mac.

finkmac · Apr 11, 2024

qemu-m68k or sheepshaver work pretty well for unstuffing in my experience.

Realitystorm · Apr 11, 2024

finkmac said:
qemu-m68k or sheepshaver work pretty well for unstuffing in my experience.

Ditto, I do most of my setup using an emulator like Basilisk II and then just copy everything to my 68k macs, either over the network, or by editing the contents of a single volume drive image on an SD card that I then use with my ZuluSCSI, BlueSCSI or MacSD adapter.

Forrest · Apr 12, 2024

StuffIt Expander 3.5 seems more appropriate on a SE/30, and it works on up to System 7.6 Macintoshrepository

Note the StuffIt file format changed with version 4

Phipli · Apr 12, 2024

Forrest said:
StuffIt Expander 3.5 seems more appropriate on a SE/30, and it works on up to System 7.6 Macintoshrepository

Note the StuffIt file format changed with version 4

It changed with 5. It isn't really a "more appropriate" situation. If 5.* runs, you use it, because you can't pick what format other people use for files. I put 4.5 and 5.5 together in a folder on all my 030 and faster macs.

68000 is more of a problem, but I usually pre-decompress files before moving them to an SE or whatever.

olePigeon · Apr 12, 2024

Also, make sure you have ExpanderEnhancer installed. That's included with DropStuff. Without ExpanderEnhancer, Stuffit will be super duper extra slow.

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