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prelimitary list for 'the' communications slot...


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after looking for a bit I realized there was no aggregation list of any sort either here or even on system7today so I decided to do a little bit of quick web browsing to put together this crude beta version for now if anyone might feel like mentioning corrections to it. I'm sure theres probably at least one manual or two somewhere with a bit more info but I'll have to look up about that on the weekend

(by the way I don't know if differing between mactcp, mactcp+ot, or ot support for in the network list would actually be helpful to do given that theres likely a small but still alive number of system 6-7.1 users around that would like to know?)

 


#modem list

Apple Macintosh 14.4 Express Fax/Modem #M2480LL/A
slot = CSI
type = 14.4k
data = yes
fax = yes
voice = 

 

Global Village Teleport Gold II #A808,#05-3402B
slot = CSI,CSII
type = 14.4k
data = yes
fax = yes
voice = no

 

Global Village Teleport Gold IIv #A808,#05-3402B
slot = CSI,CSII
type = 14.4k
data = yes
fax = yes
voice = yes

 

Global Village Teleport Platinum V 28.8 #A809
slot = CSI,CSII
type = 28.8k
data = yes
fax = yes
voice = no

 

Apple 28.8K Fax/Modem #820-0809-A
slot = CSII
type = 28.8k
data = yes
fax = yes
voice = no

 

Apple/Global Village 56K #A810,#630-2612-A
slot = CSI,CSII
type = 56k
data = 
fax = 
voice = 

 

apple ? (for beige G3) #661-1510
slot = "modified CSII"
type = 56k/v.90
data = yes
fax = yes
voice = yes for beige G3, no for anything else (latter due to the non-CSII pins not being present)

 


#network list

Apple 10BASE-T Ethernet #M3065Z/A,#630-0734,#820-0514-A,#820-0607-A
slot = CSI
software = 

 

Apple 10BASE2 Ethernet #M2708Z/A,#630-0896,#820-0537-A/B
slot = CSI
software = 

 

Apple AUII Ethernet #M3066Z/A,#630-0736,#820-0596-A
slot = CSI
software = 

 

Farallon 10BASE-T Ethernet CS Card for Performa #YPN598
slot = CSI
software = 

 

Apple 10BASE-T Ethernet #M4772ZM/A,#630-1873,#820-0784-A
slot = CSII
software = 

 

Apple 10BASE2 Ethernet #M4773ZM/A
slot = CSII
software = 

 

Apple AUII Ethernet #M4774ZM/A
slot = CSII
software = 

 

Farallon Fast EtherTX-10/100 #YPN998 (#YPN998L just same?)
slot = CSII
software = 

 

Sonic Systems 10BASE-T #P701-001,#BD-064
slot = CSII
software = 

 


#notes

references compared with;
https://lowendmac.com/2018/low-end-macs-comm-slot-faq/
http://www.zone6400.com/geomodem.html#56k_internal_modem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Communication_Slot
https://support.apple.com/kb/TA31498?locale=en_US
http://retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/m_modem.html#macmod
http://www.zone6400.com/files/ethernet_cards.html#COMM_II_Ethernet

 

cites needed with reasons given below their urls;
https://db0nus869y26v.cloudfront.net/en/Apple_Communication_Slot
(mentions: a 28.8k CSII card with no # given)
http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/m_net.html
(mentions: farallon 8960766-00, dayna/CSII with no #, CSII "one no brand.." with no #, "Dayna Daynaport E/CS-T" for CSI with no #)

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I'm always happy to see more comprehensive lists :)

Off the top of my head I have a couple thoughts:

On 3/18/2021 at 6:46 PM, chelseayr said:

apple ? (for beige G3) #661-1510
slot = "modified CSII"
type = 56k/v.90
data = yes
fax = yes
voice = yes for beige G3, no for anything else (latter due to the non-CSII pins not being present)

I believe the 'modified CSII' in the Beige G3 is the serial/modem contacts of regular CSII without the PCI implements. I believe the 56k modem for this slot also shipped in the 6500 (need to double-check.)

 

On 3/18/2021 at 6:46 PM, chelseayr said:

Farallon Fast EtherTX-10/100 #YPN998 (#YPN998L just same?)
slot = CSII
software = 

I've got a couple of these and have been happy with this driver package: http://www.zone6400.com/downloads/FastEther10-100+V2.2.1.sit

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On 3/20/2021 at 12:01 AM, jeremywork said:

I believe the 'modified CSII' in the Beige G3 is the serial/modem contacts of regular CSII without the PCI implements.

 

Very interesting, I'll have to check that out in the docs. Wondering which PCI bridge they used in the BG3s, maybe the same bridge as the 6400/6500? The third PCI slot would be where that function wound up if it that happens to be the case?

 

I'll check my NICs to see if they match your list or not. Great work @chelseayr :approve:

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thanks :)

 

and for the record this was the specific reference that mentioned about the modified bus;

http://www.zone6400.com/geomodem.html#56k_internal_modem

 

just have to look down a bit till you see 3/11/2000 date, and keep on reading from there. not to mention that 3/18/2000 additional also mentions about no voice support hence why I decided to also cite that in the list equally just as well!

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On 3/20/2021 at 5:21 PM, chelseayr said:

thanks :)

 

and for the record this was the specific reference that mentioned about the modified bus;

http://www.zone6400.com/geomodem.html#56k_internal_modem

 

just have to look down a bit till you see 3/11/2000 date, and keep on reading from there. not to mention that 3/18/2000 additional also mentions about no voice support hence why I decided to also cite that in the list equally just as well!

Looks like the specific test without voice was done in a 6400, though elsewhere on the page confirms my memory that the 6500 and Beige G3 had at least one overlapping modem SKU.

 

Edit: and I've yet to find why the 6400 and 6500 would have different CSII support...

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