SE30_Neal Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, TechEdison said: Fast enough to load the website I linked in less than 30 seconds... it’s 56k but can be up to the max that MacPPP supports. What is the max that macPPP supports? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TechEdison Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Little over 200k I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SE30_Neal Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Happy Christmas everyone!!! thanks techedison Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted December 27, 2018 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 2:44 PM, SE30_Neal said: I think the problem Potato was looking at was because these network cards or adaptors have now become silly expensive like most of these mac cards Exactly. Sure, I can get a PDS ethernet card for just over $100, but I'm just not willing to spend that. I already had the Raspberry Pi Zero W laying around, so this modem-to-modem thing cost me less than $20. Being limited to 2400 baud was a disappointment that I didn't see coming though... I expected to be up in the kbps range. I think I'll check out the serial option that I check out next. As for SCSI > Ethernet or SCSI > Wi-Fi adapters are concerned... I'm not sure which would be easier from an engineering standpoint, but Wi-Fi would be preferable to me. It's nice that my current setup works anywhere in the house. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AwkwardPotato Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Is the 2400 baud max just a limitation of the Global Village modem, or is it an issue with the Pi Zero? I'd love to be able to do some BBS'ing with the authentic modem sounds on my Macs, but I don't think I can tolerate 2400 baud . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SE30_Neal Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 I think you did great Potato! I believe the 2400 baud is the limitation of any serial connection on the old mac if ive read correctly but I’m no expert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SE30_Neal Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) Is 2400 baud not ok for bulletin boards? i noticed a shiva nic on eBay for £100 but not sure if it’s ok on the se Edited December 27, 2018 by SE30_Neal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted December 27, 2018 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, AwkwardPotato said: Is the 2400 baud max just a limitation of the Global Village modem, or is it an issue with the Pi Zero? I'd love to be able to do some BBS'ing with the authentic modem sounds on my Macs, but I don't think I can tolerate 2400 baud . I'm pretty sure it's the Global Village modem, NOT the Pi Zero W. I can only connect to it at 2400 baud through MacPPP; it doesn't respond at any other speeds. Mine is a Global Village Teleport Bronze A861. I think there are Silver and Gold counterparts that are faster, like this one. Does anyone have a faster modem we can test? 16 hours ago, SE30_Neal said: I think you did great Potato! I believe the 2400 baud is the limitation of any serial connection on the old mac if ive read correctly but I’m no expert TechKnight can chime in here. 13 hours ago, SE30_Neal said: Is 2400 baud not ok for bulletin boards? I haven't tried a BBS, but I have done some telnet with it and it is just fine! Watching Star Wars is painfully slow... but actual telnet stuff is certainly usable. Edited December 27, 2018 by PotatoFi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SE30_Neal Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PotatoFi said: I'm pretty sure it's the Global Village modem, NOT the Pi Zero W. I can only connect to it at 2400 baud through MacPPP; it doesn't respond at any other speeds. Mine is a Global Village Teleport Bronze A861. I think there are Silver and Gold counterparts that are faster, like this one. Does anyone have a faster modem we can test? TechKnight can chime in here. I haven't tried a BBS, but I have done some telnet with it and it is just fine! Watching Star Wars is painfully slow... but actual telnet stuff is certainly usable. That’s awesome though. When i get my room setup I’ll step up my efforts to get mine running as i have all the bits now, plus i really want to go on bulletin boards like you and have never tried telnet but heard of it. I don’t have one of those I’m afraid, i brought a Hayes 56k one for about £15 or about $20 i an attempt to get mine online, i only used it twice as i really wanted my network card working and it was slow. Does seem strange you’re limited to 2400 baud though, maybe its a software thing, ie an updated driver needed? Edited December 27, 2018 by SE30_Neal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AwkwardPotato Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, PotatoFi said: I'm pretty sure it's the Global Village modem, NOT the Pi Zero W. I can only connect to it at 2400 baud through MacPPP; it doesn't respond at any other speeds. Sounds great then! I have a US Robotics 28.8K modem that I'm going to try on some of my machines once I get the rest of the required materials. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted December 28, 2018 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Oh cool, you're gunna give it a go? We might be able to achieve a world record for "Highest amount of potatoes from one forum who have used one modem to dial another modem that is connected to a Raspberry Pi". Now watch out... only putting 5v of voltage on the line worked for my Global Village modem, but it did not work for the 56k modem on my iMac G3. A Pololu 5v to 9v step-up converter should fit in the modem, and should fix this. I plan to buy one and integrate it. Edited December 28, 2018 by PotatoFi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted December 28, 2018 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 So one other complaint I have about this setup is that my Mac's IP range is wildly different from my network. Macintosh SE: 193.81.130.98 "Gateway Address": 192.168.1.98 ppp0 on Raspberry Pi: 192.168.1.99 wlan0 on Raspberry Pi: 192.168.1.31 I'm not sure if that matters. It's probably necessary, but I don't really like it. I wish there was one IP for my Raspberry Pi, and one for my Macintosh. Part of what I don't like about using DreamPi is that it was set up by someone else, so I don't understand it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SE30_Neal Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted December 29, 2018 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 I think this falls into the discussion in this thread. SE30_Neal DM'ed me about these Farallon SCSI cards for $30 on eBay. I'd need to hunt down a power supply and SCSI cable. Anyone have experience with these? Any good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nglevin Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 "4 sold in 24 hours! Only 3 remaining." You uh, might want to jump on that. Now. Farallon products are generally pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SE30_Neal Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 it would give you faster internet on your SE once setup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted December 31, 2018 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 I ended up buying one. I'm going to move discussion about the Farallon adapter to this thread to keep this one more on-topic about 56k dial-in and serial methods (which I am probably not done with yet). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessFoil Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I have the dreampi setup on my Macintosh plus. I use macweb 2.0 and it works and loads pages but won’t load websites unless I use the IP address of the site. It also won’t read domain names. Also I would like to set up a proxy to get rid of all the css and stuff. Any suggestions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LaPorta Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, WakelessFoil said: I have the dreampi setup on my Macintosh plus. I use macweb 2.0 and it works and loads pages but won’t load websites unless I use the IP address of the site. It also won’t read domain names. Also I would like to set up a proxy to get rid of all the css and stuff. Any suggestions? Sounds like a bad DNS server address? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted December 3, 2019 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 That's exactly what it sounds like to me. Double-check your DNS settings in MacTCP. DNS1 should be your home router, DNS2 should be a public DNS server like 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8. In fact, you probably can skip your home router and go straight for public DNS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessFoil Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 15 hours ago, PotatoFi said: That's exactly what it sounds like to me. Double-check your DNS settings in MacTCP. DNS1 should be your home router, DNS2 should be a public DNS server like 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8. In fact, you probably can skip your home router and go straight for public DNS. I don’t think I even entered any DNS information. When I used the dreampi with my G3 it connected fine with no DNS information. I suppose MacTCP doesn’t obtain that information from the dreampi the way the more modern TCP/IP program does. Just out of curiosity, why use the router address as the first DNS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter cheesestraws Posted December 3, 2019 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Lower latency, and also doesn't hand all your browsing information to Cloudflare or Google. Also because of this thread I have had the network engineer's haiku in my head all day, so I'm going to share it here to try to get it out. It is tangentially relevant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
landoGriffin Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 On 12/24/2018 at 1:19 PM, PotatoFi said: The holy grail would be either a PDS card or SCSI card that is almost plug and play with System 6 and System 7. The problem is that there's no return on investment, there's like 5 of us that are interested in getting our compact macs online, and even in a classic Macintosh forum, people are asking "why bother". There's no business case for it, so it's highly unlikely that anyone will build it. Who would be crazy enough to waste their time on this!?!?! Pfft. https://github.com/akuker/RASCSI/wiki/Dayna-Port-SCSI-Link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter PotatoFi Posted January 21 Author 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, landoGriffin said: Who would be crazy enough to waste their time on this!?!?! Pfft. https://github.com/akuker/RASCSI/wiki/Dayna-Port-SCSI-Link I was wrong. So, so wrong! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
landoGriffin Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, PotatoFi said: I was wrong. So, so wrong! It just took a global pandemic where we are all locked in our homes for over a year.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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