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Why does everyone always complain about the 9500 case? I just pulled the motherboard on mine and didn't take me longer than about three minutes with no bruised knuckles or pinched fingertips at all. I think you guys are confusing the 9500 with the 6400/6500 which definitely has the most onerous case design I have ever encountered.

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You're kidding, right?

 

The 8500/9500 cases require a "bit" of extra work to get the motherboard out. All the PCI cards have to be taken out, all the connectors to the motherboard have to be disconnected, a screw taken out, the power button assembly needs to be carefully removed, then the logic board is slid to the front of the case. That seems like a lot of work to add RAM. Granted, after you've done this a few times, the disassembly process gets easier and faster.

 

However, all you need to do is look at the design of the 8600/9600 to see the improvement. Adding RAM? Drop the side door down. Finished.

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What all the others said. If you just want to get the 9500's motherboard out, it's no different to most other desktop machines - take the case off, take the cards out, disconnect the HDs and power connectors and all... And it's no worse than other machines in that way.

 

The big issue with it is if you want to add a couple of RAM sticks - you HAVE to take the motherboard out. For one of the most common acts inside a computer (apart from PCI cards I suspect), having to take PCI cards out, disconnect HDs, disconnect all the rear cables, disconnect the front panel wires, sound, floppy etc... is just a touch mad.

 

Dana

 

(I say HAVE to, despite having changed RAM myself by swinging the motherboard up out of the way, but I also dropped it like that - not the best thing for a long machine life!)

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When my 8100 still worked i had it apart a bunch of times for various things, RAM upgrades, drive upgrades/insertations/removals/battery replacements/etc and it was always a snap to pull apart and put back together. It was a bit hairy my first time around way back in the day when i was at the Shop but after that first time its super-easy.

 

I can have ANY 8x0/x500 case stripped bare@$$ nekked in 5 minutes - GUARANTEED! :D Or your money back ;)

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I can strip an 8xx/8xxx/9xxx computer down to nothingness in less than 5 minutes, too. But I still hate the case design :)

 

The biggest issue in my mind is installing RAM. Lets just say as an example, you add RAM, reassemble and reboot and you get nothing. You have a bad stick of RAM... Now what do you do? Strip it down again. Fun :(

 

I still vote for the 8600/9600 cases as being better than the G3/G4 cases based on the availability of extra external 5.25 drive bays and the massive number of internal bays

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I can strip an 8xx/8xxx/9xxx computer down to nothingness in less than 5 minutes, too. But I still hate the case design :)

 

The biggest issue in my mind is installing RAM. Lets just say as an example, you add RAM, reassemble and reboot and you get nothing. You have a bad stick of RAM... Now what do you do? Strip it down again. Fun :(

 

I still vote for the 8600/9600 cases as being better than the G3/G4 cases based on the availability of extra external 5.25 drive bays and the massive number of internal bays

 

This is why I never completely reassemble a machine before testing it.

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Exactly...otherwise you're just guaranteeing that something will fail. ;)

 

Anyway, for the record, the LC630/Performa 6xxx case isn't that bad to work on either if you know what you're doing. Just make sure not to touch it in the wrong place...i did once, and lets just say that it was an electrifying experience! ;):p

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Exactly...otherwise you're just guaranteeing that something will fail. ;)

 

Anyway, for the record, the LC630/Performa 6xxx case isn't that bad to work on either if you know what you're doing. Just make sure not to touch it in the wrong place...i did once, and lets just say that it was an electrifying experience! ;):p

 

I don't have any problem with those, just that the faceplates are easily damaged if you don't know how to get them off ahead of time.

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Yeah...if you know what you're doing they're pretty easy to get into. My problem was that one day i was working on my 630 and i brushed past the power supply with the machine plugged in! Needless to say, i was shocked, and by that i mean in a life-threatening way, and will never do that again. :p

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This is why I never completely reassemble a machine before testing it.

 

With a 9500/8500 you run a pretty good chance of screwing something up if you don't at least put the board back in place.

 

Better safe than sorry esp. if it takes less than 5 minutes to take it apart

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This is why I never completely reassemble a machine before testing it.

 

With a 9500/8500 you run a pretty good chance of screwing something up if you don't at least put the board back in place.

 

Better safe than sorry esp. if it takes less than 5 minutes to take it apart

 

 

the 9500 mobo has no problem with running when its not placed inside the case. I had a 7300 and 8600 running outside the case and on both died the onboard video and there were problems with the speaker/sound hardware as well. I later noticed that this is caused because the board has to be grounded to work correctly. It is grounded to the enclosure of the psu over the metal shielding inside the case (dont take it out of there! - i did on my 7300/8600 casemod and had to ground the mobo to the housing of the PSU using a wire, otherwise the mac refused to work). the 9500 maybe has none of these problems cause it has no onboard video.

 

BTW: no problem to take it apart in 5 minutes. but have you ever tried to fit a 68pin HD+ adapter in the case without breaking your fingers?

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there´s a small metall thingy on the mobo that ensures contact to the metal shield of the case. if you have it on the mobo then you probably shouldnt run it when you´re not shure if it is grounded...

 

EDIT: the little metally thingy :p goes through a hole in the mobo that is surrounded with a metall contact.

for me the board was useable when you plug a monitor into the onboard video port (at least until the video hardware died) because that grounded the board as well (I´ve done some trace routing and saw that the ground pins of all ports are all connected to the little metall-thingy-connection)

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