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 if you ever put a 1440-formatted-as-400 or a 1440-formatted-as-800 into a 1440KB drive, the operating system will report the diskette is unreadable and ask you to initialise it, again.

 

You can get around that by putting a piece of tape over the density detect hole. (That's the hole in an HD disk opposite of the write protect switch.) The real problem with using 1.44mb floppies as low density is they're just not particularly reliable when formatted like that. *How* reliable depends on the media, the drives, the phase of the moon... etc. In my experience my M0106 drive seems to "mostly work" with HD disks, but the internal 400k drive on my 400k is much more skeptical of them.

 

Fair warning also: The original 400k drives, or at least the one in my machine, seems to have a "disk-present" sensor that shines right through the density select hole, so the internal drive doesn't see an HD disk *unless* there's tape over that hole.

 

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That is an awesome setup - I need less clutter... or a display area.  Yours looks so nice!

 

I am going to need to find a place for my Appel IIc.  I don't want to replace the Mac Plus because its such a nice complete system with the HD20.  I could put it where my Macbook Pro is right now, but then I would have nowhere to use my internet capable modern machine, lol

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Just got my Apple IIc screen, so I was finally able to confirm that the machine (including the disk drive) works!

 

Does anyone have any useful primers on how to use an Apple II?  I haven't used one since I was in elementary school, and even then it was only to play Oregon trail.

 

When I turn the machine on, it just says "Check Disk Drive," even if I put a disk in it.  If I have a disk in it before I turn it on, it loads the disk.  Is there a command/button combo to get it to read a disk I insert AFTER I turn it on?

 

Any list of key combos/commands would be useful and appreciated :)

 

 

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When I turn the machine on, it just says "Check Disk Drive," even if I put a disk in it.  If I have a disk in it before I turn it on, it loads the disk.  Is there a command/button combo to get it to read a disk I insert AFTER I turn it on?

 

Any list of key combos/commands would be useful and appreciated :)

 At the BASIC prompt (which from memory looked like either ] or >) type PR#6 Enter to boot from 5.25" internal drive, or PR#5 to boot from external 3.5" Unidisk (if it has the updated MON ROM, the original ROM in earlier //c shipped did not have the intelligence to recognise and use 3.5" diskette drives).

 

All this is from memory, without checking, I could be wrong.

 

If you do  not see the BASIC prompt, press reset (if it has a reset key) as then I think the BASIC prompt should appear. Another possibility might be Control-C or Control-C Enter

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Apple IIc: very nice! I wish I could advise you. I have my family's old Apple IIe in the basement (it was working last I tried some 15 years ago) but I have next to no memory of how to run it. One of these days, if I can get the mac collection corralled, I'll try to get the Apple IIe up and running again.

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Picked up an Apple II plus, green screen monitor, and Disk II on Craigslist.

 

I am new to the Apple II world -- can someone identify the two cards and third "add on" I found inside the machine?  (See pictures attached).

 

I also have a question -- when I tried to load a couple of games, it said that it could not run them because the diskette required 64k of RAM.  I was confused by this because this Apple II plus has the language card in it and therefore HAS 64k of RAM.  Also one of the games (Oregon Trail) is one that I see all sorts of Apple II plus-es running on Youtube..

 

Also, sometimes when I turn on the power to the machine, the disk II's red light turns on and it sounds like it is working (whether there is a disk in there or not) and it never does anything....

 

Thanks!

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Picked up an Apple II plus, green screen monitor, and Disk II on Craigslist.

 

I am new to the Apple II world -- can someone identify the two cards and third "add on" I found inside the machine?  (See pictures attached).

 

I also have a question -- when I tried to load a couple of games, it said that it could not run them because the diskette required 64k of RAM.  I was confused by this because this Apple II plus has the language card in it and therefore HAS 64k of RAM.  Also one of the games (Oregon Trail) is one that I see all sorts of Apple II plus-es running on Youtube..

 

Also, sometimes when I turn on the power to the machine, the disk II's red light turns on and it sounds like it is working (whether there is a disk in there or not) and it never does anything....

 

Thanks!

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I am new to the Apple II world -- can someone identify the two cards and third "add on" I found inside the machine?  (See pictures attached).

 

I don't see any identifying marks to tell the manufacturer but the card with the chip labeled "HD6845R" is almost certainly an 80 column video card. It's a different layout from my Videx Videoterm but it has essentially the same components. Likewise I see no useful identifying marks on the other card but since it has a Z-80 CPU on it it's undoubtedly for running CP/M. It looks suspiciously like the Unitron Z80 card here, but I also see poking around that what looks like the same card was sold under other names with different silkscreens. So maybe it's a "Wacky Bob's House Of Computers Z-80-o-tronic" house brand.

 

(There's also a directory for 80 column cards on the same site, you can probably match your card there.)

 

The last dingus, the Sup-R-Mod, is an RF Modulator for hooking up to a TV on channel 33 UHF instead of a composite monitor. Guessing you probably don't need that.

 

I also have a question -- when I tried to load a couple of games, it said that it could not run them because the diskette required 64k of RAM.  I was confused by this because this Apple II plus has the language card in it and therefore HAS 64k of RAM.  Also one of the games (Oregon Trail) is one that I see all sorts of Apple II plus-es running on Youtube..

 

 

So what happens when you boot a plain old DOS 3.3 MASTER disk from cold? The first thing that should come up on the screen if the system is working is a message telling you it's loading Integer basic into the language card. I'm sort of wondering if maybe the language card has some issue that's preventing it from being detected? (In which case your system is acting like an-Applesoft-only 48k Plus?)

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I don't see any identifying marks to tell the manufacturer but the card with the chip labeled "HD6845R" is almost certainly an 80 column video card. It's a different layout from my Videx Videoterm but it has essentially the same components.

 

Actually, I stand corrected; your card is almost identical to a Videx Videoterm, it's just missing the silkscreen in the corner and there are a few component changes. I wonder if it's some kind of knockoff. (Such things were not rare in the Apple II Plus' day; in fact, my Apple II Plus is a real Apple motherboard in the case of a clone; the original Clone board is alas lost to history but it was nearly trace-for-trace identical to the real one.)

 

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Thanks for the info!

 

Unfortunately, I know *nothing* about Apple II's so I have no idea what booting from a DOS 3.3 MASTER disk from cold means, haha.

 

I have an Apple IIc which I configured to do ADTPro stuff (making disks and the like), so if there is a disk I should make let me know.

 

What is weird is sometimes I get it to load those programs that it says requires 64k -- for example, with Oregon Trail, I can get it to START loading, but the first few screens have a series of anomalies and then it eventually freezes.  Another game will just get to the loading screen.  No rhyme or reason as to why it will try to load sometimes and say it needs 64k RAM other times.

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Actually, I stand corrected; your card is almost identical to a Videx Videoterm, it's just missing the silkscreen in the corner and there are a few component changes. I wonder if it's some kind of knockoff. (Such things were not rare in the Apple II Plus' day; in fact, my Apple II Plus is a real Apple motherboard in the case of a clone; the original Clone board is alas lost to history but it was nearly trace-for-trace identical to the real one.)

 

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Interesting.  Seems like this one is missing the cables coming off the board.  Im guessing this board is pretty worthless then and I can probably remove it from the machine?

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Interesting.  Seems like this one is missing the cables coming off the board.  Im guessing this board is pretty worthless then and I can probably remove it from the machine?

 

If you want to use the board I can probably give you the pinout of an output cable from my board and it'll no doubt work. (That board really does look like a straight-up clone.) Mine doesn't have the back panel thing, it just has a cable that plugs into that header. (Mine actually came with a *different* setup to allow switching between the 80 and 40 column modes on the same monitor, but the card will also work simply as a "second head" inside the system.) I would recommend removing it during any troubleshooting you're trying to do, though. Same for the Z-80 card for that matter.

 

(If you really aren't interested in either board I could possibly be willing to take them off your hands. Heck, if you decide the whole computer is a loss I could probably use a spare. I mention this because based on your location it'd probably be a local transaction.) ;)

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Unfortunately, I know *nothing* about Apple II's so I have no idea what booting from a DOS 3.3 MASTER disk from cold means, haha.

 

I have an Apple IIc which I configured to do ADTPro stuff (making disks and the like), so if there is a disk I should make let me know.

 

I use the Apple II disk server to make disks for my Plus; the one you'd want would be the DOS 3.3 image on the top there, but given you don't trust your Plus definitely make your DOS 3.3 disk with ADTPro on the IIc instead. (I'm sure you'll have no problems finding the one in the usual places.)

 

Just for a sanity check, could you post a picture of the interior of the system with the language card in place? Since you're missing at least the one cable I've vaguely wondering if there could be a problem with how your language card is set up. Just for sanity's sake: There should be a 16 pin jumper cable running from the card to the motherboard, plugged in in place of one of the 24 16k RAM chips. That all looks good, everything's seated properly?

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Acquired an SE/30 that looked great on Craigslist (worked, case in great shape).  However, it got damaged in shipping.  Case was cracked and the HD was never screwed down so it flopped all over and appears to have damaged the CRT.

 

Motherboard seems nice (and will send it off for recapping) and it had an Asante Maccon PDS ethernet card (which I think sell for some decent money).  Kind of a bummer that I won't have a functioning SE/30 like I had hoped...

 

 

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Called my old high school to see if they had any old macs they were getting rid of. They said they had two "real old" ones going to e-recycling this week.

 

Went and picked them up. For free.

 

One is a G5 of unknown vintage.

 

The other is an 8 core 2.25ghz Xeon Mac Pro with 12 GB of RAM and two hard drives for a total of 1.3 TB of space.

 

Pictures to follow. I'll probably be looking to get rid of the G5 if anyone is interested.

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