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I have a CD of Workgroup Server Software for the 6150, 8150, and 9150. It's System 7.5.1.

 

But it's a German one. Much as I enjoy the German language I would like to use my 9150 in English, either US or British :)

 

I've looked all over the usual sites and found nothing. No downloads or physical media.

 

Does anyone have a CD of the installer they'd be willing to give, sell, or send an ISO to me please?

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ok what you need is here, https://archive.org/details/AppleLegacyRecoveryDisks or perhaps here on the Garden, I say perhaps because there is no tree listing for this disc: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-legacy-software-recovery-cd

 

When you land on this page, instruct your browser to search for 9150 and you will find it listed.

 

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Legacy Recovery:Mac OS:System 7.5.1:7.5.1-AWS 60,80,6150,8150,9150
Net Install.scr 26 (hscr ddsk) 5/23/96 5/23/96  
Make Floppies.scr 14 (hscr ddsk) 4/22/97 4/22/97  
System 7.5 Update 2.0 786 (fdrp MACS) 3/14/96 5/18/98  
Disk Tools.img 1133008 (rohd ddsk) 3/23/95 3/5/97  
Install Disk 10.img 1141193 (rohd ddsk) 3/23/95 3/5/97  
Install Disk 2.img 755 (rohd ddsk) 5/23/96 5/18/98  
Install Disk 3.img 755 (hdro ddsk) 5/23/96 5/18/98  
Install Disk 4.img 755 (hdro ddsk) 5/23/96 5/18/98  
Install Disk 5.img 755 (hdro ddsk) 5/23/96 5/18/98  
Install Disk 6.img 755 (hdro ddsk) 5/23/96 5/18/98  
Install Disk 7.img 755 (hdro ddsk) 5/23/96 5/18/98  
Install Disk 8.img 1017455 (rohd ddsk) 3/23/95 3/5/97  
Install Disk 9.img 1327623 (rohd ddsk) 3/23/95 3/5/97  
InstallMeFirst.img 1046987 (rohd ddsk) 3/23/95 3/5/97  


 

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Generally seconding ASIP5-6 if you're looking for functionality in particular. Let me know if you want my write-up on setting up ASIP, which isn't yet done, but, I need to be working on it more.

 

(EDIT: To clarify, the write-up is "how to run vtools" but would be applicable to anybody who wanted to use ASIP 6 (should apply to 5, more or less) for collaborative or workplace scenarios or was just interested in what that would be like.)

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Hi, I only see mention of something called ASIP (AppleShare IP) so I am uploading everything I have online to my repo on Mac garden, http://home.macintosh.garden/~alexs/ASIP/. Check within an hour of this writing as I am still uploading.

 

I apologize but I did not take a great deal of care in organizing the files for you so there may be duplicates and some readme.txt files may be not directly or immediately obvious as to which file they belong to so you may need to read those read me files to sort that out.

 

If on the other hand, you know what you need then you should be able to find it.

 

You can download all of it if you need. I can't predict the size as things are still uploading to the directory. 

 

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ASIP is itself a little after the time of most of the WGSes. To be honest, a lot of the WGSes shipped fairly bare and/or with trial versions of third party tools. ASIP is great to run on a WGS, of course, but it launched in 1997 at the tail end of the 7350 and 9650 existing.

 

On a 604 WGS, using the ASIP 5 or 6 installer will be fine. On a G3 or newer, there's a bootable restore image originally meant for the edu QS'02 server Apple was selling in 2002/03 which will at least restore onto a QS, but there's no good reason it won't restore onto a G3 or another G4 model. That's how I built vtools. It's also the easiest way to get ASIP 6.3.3, which is mostly a release that tidied up some minor bugs and as far as I can tell resolved a few security patches.

 

Someone packaged 6.3.3 up on its own and put it up on regular Mac Garden: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/appleshare-ip-633

 

I'm curious as to what the 6.3.3 toast file on your garden repo is because it's a file/combination I've never seen before and Apple never released a retail 6.3.3 installer.

 

6 hours ago, Alex said:

I am uploading everything I have online to my repo on Mac garden

Incidentally, I hadn't seen home.macintosh.garden before - when did that happen?

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15 hours ago, Cory5412 said:

Incidentally, I hadn't seen home.macintosh.garden before - when did that happen?

Hi Cory

 

I think about a year or two ago it was setup. There is a Dischord space for the Macintosh Garden and I believe you can get more details there. I am only using it to host some files at the moment.

 

The 6.3.3 version came from tauceti.org. I do a ton of scraping of sites, primarily the waybackmachine in an an effort to find material that could be hiding in plain site in the dark so to speak. I began this personal project about 1 year ago and the long term plan is to organize the effort in a more meaningful way and find a proper place to store what I dig up. Ironically, I may very well be uploading these onto the internet archive to facilitate one click downloads. For the time being and well into the foreseeable future everything is going to land on the Garden at which point it gets scheduled for processing to the more public facing side of the Garden. In summary both archive.org and Macintoshgarden are obvious destinations for these artifacts.

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Nice. I'm probably not going to hop on the MG Discord, but it's interesting to see that they've started diversifying a bit, and working on making getting at things easier for actual vintage Macs. (someone mentioned the FTP access method the other day, for example.)

 

I was mostly curious because it looks a lot like what I've been doing on vtools, which I run on AppleShare IP 6. My goal there has been to provide an easier-to-use-for-vintage-Macs repository for software/games and other files access as well as (so far via patreon, to help with the cost of running the thing, but also for people who have been uploading stuff, testing, and helping with organization) personal file/web site access and eventually (once I get RDNS set up) vintage-compatible email.

 

If you're interested in helping organize, please let me know, I have an existing "sw" share, which is just my old software collection, a public share, and I have some not-widely-shared work spaces for organizing and incoming.

 

I'll drop by the MG discord at some point. I'm not too active on discord, so I make no promises of activity levels.

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Hi Cory

 

As an FYI, FTP access, which is publicly open to all is available right from their main page.

 

I took a look at the two links. Looks like a good solution for folks who don't have a bridge machine and for just general purpose compatibility with 7.5 and up.

 

I am not sure how I can help but I would be happy to design a logo for you in Adobe Illustrator. 

 

 

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Sure, and to the best of my recollection that's pretty new, added after I started vtools. I'm still planning on continuing, and the biggest most helpful thing would be help organizing files, though lots of the problem with that right now is that I just need to get started again sitting down and doing it.

 

I've mentioned this a "handful" of times over the past ~year or so but the other thing that I'd find helpful is assistance determining a standardized way to store everything and converting existing files to those standard formats. The majority of the stuff I have on my Mac Pro is from a torrent Internet Archive is hosting of Mac Garden and the data there is a big mess. Files all over with names well over 31-characters long (still a problem on both macgarden and macrepo), files in all manner of vintage-unfriendly format, including stuff for system 6 in SITX format and zip or even RAR format, among other oddities.

 

I need to see about either pulling the source disk and connecting it to one of my 10.6 Mac minis or to the iBook G4, to use less power and be more reliable than the macpro I was using, or get a better video card for that macpro.

 

As logos go, if you think you've got an idea, that would be fine, I know that placeholder text is there but it's not a particularly high need. At some point I'll either take that text out of the template, or drop a/the 68kMLA logo in that spot, as an indication that I'm running it as a 68kMLA project.

 

 

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I have a logo for you, no idea how to send it to you @Cory5412

 

Sent a PM just now to sort of consolidate all these topics into one place.

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On 1/23/2020 at 7:25 PM, Cory5412 said:

Generally seconding ASIP5-6 if you're looking for functionality in particular. Let me know if you want my write-up on setting up ASIP, which isn't yet done, but, I need to be working on it more.

 

(EDIT: To clarify, the write-up is "how to run vtools" but would be applicable to anybody who wanted to use ASIP 6 (should apply to 5, more or less) for collaborative or workplace scenarios or was just interested in what that would be like.)

I guess this is the write up? http://vtools.68kmla.org/connection.html

By the way @Cory5412 unless I missed it, you should be displaying a link to this somewhere, I bet there is more interest than you think. It's a cool thing for an old Mac to make a connection via FTP or what appears to be a read only network connection across the globe on 7.5.x or later using the Chooser. That is a very cool thing and I can only imagine how awesome it could be if bunches of us would all start setting up these micro AppleShare IP servers at home to share with user's around the world. This is an amazing thing!!

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Ah, sorry, "how to run vtools" in the sense of "how to set up ASIP on your own" - Apple's own documentation is good but of course getting people to go there is one thing and it's not that good of a quick-start guide.

 

The connection instructions are the pretty normal "how to connect to a server" instructions.

 

And, yeah, ultimately, I'd be interested in sharing the public data on it with others and would be happy to see it mirrored, etc.

 

It's a bit of a moonshot but ASIP can share user data over the Internet, so it's technicallypossible for, say, anyone to install ASIP on a machine and then get permission to point their machine at the vtools DNS name for account information, then all registered vtools users can access the other machines.

 

I don't know if that sync is two-way though, or if there's a way to configure that - if so, I'd want to lock it down a lot, so that's something I need to research.

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On 1/21/2020 at 10:07 PM, Alex said:

ok what you need is here, https://archive.org/details/AppleLegacyRecoveryDisks or perhaps here on the Garden, I say perhaps because there is no tree listing for this disc: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-legacy-software-recovery-cd

 

When you land on this page, instruct your browser to search for 9150 and you will find it listed.

 


 


sorry for slow reply, don’t seem to be receiving email notifications. 
 

thanks for this - I think that’s probably what I was looking for, off to download and burn now :)

 

also I’m amused how off topic this thread got!

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Thanks again @Alex I used the Legacy disc to install 7.5.1 (I forgot to mention it's a 9150/120 so that's its minimum system) last night and everything's working as I'd hoped!

 

 

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On 2/3/2020 at 9:05 PM, james_w said:

also I’m amused how off topic this thread got!

It's all part of the wrap but what's important is that your main concern is resolved and I am delighted for that!

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