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Apple M1296 12" RGB: No Raster

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I have a 12" RGB pizza-box-topper monitor connected to a PowerMac 6100, which according to this and this, should be able to output at the monitors 512x384 resolution. However, when starting the computer from either the OS 8.5 install, or the System 7 Disk Tools, the monitor doesn't display a raster. When powered on and off, I can hear it crackling, and the LED comes on. I've attempted adjusting the sub-brightness and sub-contrast controls, but to no avail.

 

What are some things I should check for to attempt to repair it?

 

Thanks in advance!

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I'd test it on your (repaired) LC first though, before ruling out the monitor as faulty.  It's an odd resolution for a PPC Mac so don't take the documentation you've found as gospel.

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I haven't tested the 6100 in particular, but the 7300 and 6500 have no trouble with 512x384 on this particular display, so there's no good reason it shouldn't work.

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I'm going from older knowledge here but if you can't even force the brightness up with an internal pot to see a raster check so see if the end of the tube has the orange glow of the heater.

From experience one of two things has happened. Either the video stage itself has suffered a rather large failure and no signal is reaching the tube but the high voltage is good, or the cathode heater in the tube has failed, possibly from the monitor being very roughly handled or old age.

Edited by CelGen

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Re-cap your monitor boards!!!

 

The CRTs and flybacks on these monitors are usually pretty reliable. However, bad caps will cause all sorts of issues, from poor focus to distorted rasters to monitors doing next to nothing. 

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Me too. They're not big and clunky looking like many contemporary PC monitors tended to be. I don't care too much about that myself, but I can see why an average person would have liked to not have a giant CRT take up most of their desk space (this it one of the many reasons LCDs became so popular, starting in the mid-2000's I think).

 

The slightly bigger HiRes 13" is nice too, albeit a bit heavy (I have two of them, so yeah. Heavy). the 12" RGB is nice and light, at least for a CRT.

 

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Thread necromancy, I know, but:

 

I decided to investigate further with this monitor and found that the horizontal output transistor is shorted. I've watched techknight's videos on repairing his monitor and read up on similar instances of this happening and from what I can gather, there's likely something else causing the HOT to fail and whatever replacement I put in will end up failing as well. Where should I go from here?

 

BTW, I do plan on recapping the monitor.

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Not always. 

 

HOTs are real sensitive to their drive signals, as well as the spikes that appear on the Collector of the transistor. 

 

The drive signals could get skewed on the front end, as well as the driven portion. So if the oscillator circuits or driver circuits and its coupling caps drag ass, it can destroy the HOT. As well as any overcurrent conditions on the flyback from either the flyback itself, or any secondary circuitry hooked up to the flyback. the Vertical output stage is hooked up to the flyback as well as other sweep circuits. 

 

Also, the B+ voltages divided between the different stages have to be clean as well. if its not clean it can distort the waveform which can destroy the HOT. 

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