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#21 PowerPup

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 06:04 AM

Well, that's why I embedded the link to Antergos.com. ;)  It's a live ISO you can boot up and run their custom GUI installer for Arch, comes with several configuration choices (like which desktop you want, Gnome, KDE, MATE, Cinnamon, etc.) It makes getting started on Arch a LOT easier. :D  The package manager for Arch is called pacman. 8-)
 
If you ever need a good Linux podcast to find out the "latest Linux trends," I highly recommend the "Linux Action Show" and "Linux Unplugged" over at JupiterBroadcasting.com. It's how I found out about Arch Linux and Antergos. ;)

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#22 HoneyDoe

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Posted 05 January 2015 - 12:26 AM

Well, I will be giving it a spin my my toshiba when i get the chance.



I'm also checking out that podcast..because i have nothing better to do


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#23 IPalindromeI

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Posted 05 January 2015 - 03:12 AM

Well, that's why I embedded the link to Antergos.com. ;)  It's a live ISO you can boot up and run their custom GUI installer for Arch, comes with several configuration choices (like which desktop you want, Gnome, KDE, MATE, Cinnamon, etc.) It makes getting started on Arch a LOT easier. :D  The package manager for Arch is called pacman. 8-)


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#24 PowerPup

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Posted 05 January 2015 - 03:44 AM

Yeah, I suppose. :p But it does let me use the latest version of GNOME 3, nvidia drivers and whatnot. ;) I plan on eventually going through the wiki and doing straight up Arch. Antergos was just to get my feet in the water.


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#25 Bunsen

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 12:58 PM

A quick Google for "netatalk OpenWRT" shows a bunch of people using it to set up Time Machine compatible backup drives using cheap routers and USB storage.  So that's good.


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#26 mactjaap

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 10:21 PM

I made a Virtual Box instance with OpenWRT 10.3 and 12.9 on it. I tried most recent and an old one. 10.3 has Netalak 2.0.5-2 on board and 12.9 2.2.1-5.

Both installed with kmod_appletalk.

It has afpd on board, but no atalkd.

I’m not sure how to get it working serving files with ddp.

I can post the *.vdo here  so other people can test as well.

 

12.9

root@OpenWrt:~# opkg info netatalk
Package: netatalk
Version: 2.2.1-5
Depends: libc, libdb47, libgcrypt, libopenssl, librpc
Provides:
Status: install user installed
Architecture: x86
Conffiles:
 /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf 7826386795dfd860b4f0f774fc5bae1a
Installed-Time: 1420235764
 
ps w
1396 root      1116 S    /usr/sbin/cnid_metad
 1402 root      3720 S    /usr/sbin/afpd -c 7
 
 
 
 
 
 
10.3
 
root@OpenWrt:~# opkg info netatalk
Package: netatalk
Version: 2.0.5-2
Depends: libdb47, libgcrypt, libopenssl, kmod-appletalk
Provides:
Status: install user installed
Architecture: x86
Installed-Time: 1420542572
 
ps w
24747 root      2740 S    /usr/bin/afpd -F /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf -P /var/run/
25024 root       508 S    /usr/bin/cnid_metad

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#27 mactjaap

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 10:26 PM

If you want to test you can pick up the OpenWRT10.3.ova and import it in Virtual Box. I will give you a x86 virtual machine with OpenWRT, appletalk kernel mod and Netatalk on it.

 

Don't see how this works with ddp however.....

 

http://www.macip.net/OpenWRT10.3.ova


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#28 feeef

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 12:11 PM

Don't see how this works with ddp however.....

 

To make ddp work, you have to edit the afp config file : /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf

 

Go to the bottom and set the configuration as :

 

        - -transall

 

Then, you have to edit the global netatalk configuration file which, on my debian box is : /etc/default/netatalk

 

There you will be able to uncomment the Appletalk configuration and give a name to your network.

 

Restart your netatalk server (it should be quite longer with ddp) and you should see your linux box appear on your old mac's chooser! ;)


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#29 mactjaap

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:38 PM

Thanks feeef!
I give it a try this weekend!

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#30 mactjaap

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 04:28 PM

hmmmm not so simple on OpenWRT. I test on 10.3. This is my conf:

 

/etc/netatalk/afpd.conf

"OpenWRTFile Server" -ddp -notcp -uamlist uams_guest.so,uams_clrtxt.so,uams_dhx.so -defaultvol /etc/AppleVolumes.default -systemvol /usr/local/etc/netatalk/AppleVolumes.system -uservol -guestname "nobody" -setuplog "default log_maxdebug /var/log/afpd.log"
 
It runs...
 
 1062 root      2740 S      /usr/bin/afpd -F /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf -P /var/run/
 
I also see  kmod_appletalk loaded:   ( do an      lsmod)
appletalk              18096  1 ipddp
 
 
But nothing to see in Choosers or with nbplkup...
 
My guess it is missing atalkd   ( AppelTalk daemon).
 
I wonder if anyone ever got this running with ddp (Appletalk)!

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#31 feeef

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Posted 12 January 2015 - 09:26 AM

Have you edited "/etc/default/netatalk" ?

 

In this file you should set the following :

 

ATALK_NAME=yourcomptername

 

Then scroll down into the file and uncomment :

 

ATALKD_RUN=yes

 

 

I have this config running on a Debian virtual machine on my Mac Pro and it works perfectly. I am able to connect to it with my LC III that runs system 7.1 and don't have TCP-IP support.

 

I have made a mirror of my Mac home folder on the Debian VM through NSF and it is what I share with netatalk so I can actually see my Mavericks files on the LC III :)

 

I have posted a how to on this forum a few weeks ago but it is not complete. I will try to do a proper post on my personal website when I find the time.


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#32 mactjaap

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:52 AM

On OpenWRT it is not so simple. There is no atalkd, so ATALKD_RUN=yes
has no use.

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#33 feeef

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 08:47 AM

Ok, I see!

Well, it must be TCP-IP only then. Any Mac running system 7.5 can handle TCP-IP with OpenTransport 1.3 and AppleShare Client 3.7.4. That makes your system compatible with many old computers even without ddp.

 

If you really want to use ddp, or maybe pap for print sharing, you may just want to do a minimal install of debian on your virtualbox VM. I have done that on my 2008 Mac Pro and it is quite light. I have setup this VM as a bridge between Mavericks and my old Macs. I can use my Mac Pro's files and printer from any vintage Mac on the network.


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#34 lisa2

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 04:21 PM

"Any Mac running system 7.5 can handle TCP-IP with OpenTransport 1.3 and AppleShare Client 3.7.4. That makes your system compatible with many old computers even without ddp."

 

Not exactly, OT requires a PPC, 68040 or 68030, this leaves many old macs that can run Sys 7.5 stuck with MacTCP.  OT also needs more ram than MacTCP does.

 

Rick



#35 feeef

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 04:54 PM

Exactly Rick, when I say "many old computers" I mean those 68040 and 68030 Macs. Others will have to use MacTCP or appletalk without TCP-IP.


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#36 mactjaap

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 05:58 PM

I'm always playing with my really old Macs. So TCP only is no option for me.

For my MacIPgw I'm testing with FreeBSD And AFP over AppleTalk. That works fine.
I' m working on NetBSD and OpenWRT to get it working on a small device like a router or cheap device like a PogoPlug.

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#37 HoneyDoe

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:36 PM

So, I'm going to set this up later today on my linux box, I wonder if sheepshaver will be able to talk to it.

If sheep shaver can talk to it,

Then i can unstuff my files and re stuff them properly for my se and tranfer it via a ppp session or something i think....

And...yes.... I'll be useing debian, so hopefully it should be all all right.


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#38 mac-cellar

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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:35 PM

Just thought I'd let people know that I'm working on a "Quick and Easy" guide on how to setup Netatalk on the 68kMLA Wiki.

At the moment the wiki page only has details of setting Netatalk up on Ubuntu, I plan to expand it as I try more distros. (Location of config files should only be the major difference.)

So far I've successfully connected my TiBook G4 to my Netatalk box within Mac OS 9 and 10.4. (Making sure AFP via TCP was disabled in the OS 9 test.) Copying back and forth so far has gone well. (Although it lagged a couple times, probably because my Netatalk box was running over Wifi.) When I have the time I plan to test Mac OS 6 and 7 using my Classic II via my AsantePrint bridge.

So keep an eye on it while I work on it in my spare time. Feel free to give suggestions. ;)

Thanks to this guide and the steps expertly detailed here, and here ... oh yeah, and here and here , I now have my Raspberry Pi NAS with Netatalk up and running at home.  Accessed with a Powerbook 1400 (OS 8.1, Appleshare 3.8.3, OT 1.3) over ethernet... with a MacBook over WiFi.

 

So many advantages to this... no more keeping track of what software I have saved on what CD or ZIP disk, for one.  Moreover, a document can be created on one of my old Powerbooks and saved to a pdf (gotta love the Print-to-PDF extension) on the NAS for printing via the MacBook.  Makes these old beasts quasi-productive members of the household again for school assignments and the odd piece of correspondence.  Now if I could just get good clock batteries for them :)


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#39 PowerPup

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Posted 31 March 2015 - 07:13 PM

Very nice! :D  It is possible to setup netatalk as a print server too. I have yet to try this myself as my LaserJet 2100 supports AppleTalk directly, but it sounds like if you have the printer set up via CUPS then all you need to do is a simple edit in papd.conf.


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#40 mac-cellar

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 01:52 PM

Hmmm.  Now, that's very interesting!  I did see CUPS mentioned in the commented sections of one of the conf files, but I glossed over it while I was trying to get everything up and running. I'm going to tinker with this.  Thanks for the heads-up! :)


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