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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Thanks as always for the great reply, trag! I think I remember you talking to the point of the Enhanced CPU cards and what the PW could handle. I took another look and the 225/45 card is definitely PCC. I sadly borked all of the spares (admittedly not great specimens) I had when coming up with a solution to my 4400's power supply issues. You're probably right about the PSU—It's the original, and was in a smoker's environment all its life. Working this long is a feat, even for a SeaSonic perhaps. I can scrounge one up fairly easily I reckon. I'll also check the PCI riser (if that chip is on the riser of a PW anyway). I'm a knucklehead sometimes: do you mean check the 3.3V line of the PSU or somewhere on the board? If the PSU replacement would solve it, I guess it's moot, but I didn't know if something else on the board would need checked as well. Interesting note too about the cache. I just barely got it, and installed after testing and putting the 132 card back in for now. I'll definitely remove it when testing this mystery PCC card. Edit: Just booted with the mystery card. Turns out I may have gotten a PW original card; 604/120. the case badge is accurate now at least
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Interesting(?) new development: with all the PowerLogix system goodies disabled and with the 604/132 CPU card Sonnet Metronome freezes the system upon opening. MacBench specs will read it just fine, but thought that was a strange quirk. On my 4400/Starmax 5500 boards Metronome runs with whatever's in the system. Could be that that particular daughter card is wrecking havoc with Metronome, causing it to crash?
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Grrr. I keep on discovering new information with each post... Apparently the PowerTower (not pro) 180 (not 180e) runs at a 60 MHz bus speed? even though the Tsunami design spec didn't? The 85/9500 doesn't appear to run at 60. Ah, but the original PowerTower was Catalyst-based?? and only PCC made their Catalyst boards run at 60? My brain right now... I need some sleep. Well, then, I guess the 604/150 from another PowerWave is the non-604e ceiling, if MacInfo.de and Everymac are to be believed.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Interestingly enough, I started to catalog each of the CPU daughter cards in hopes of IDing ebay listings that dont show or are missing the speed sticker/decal, but they didn't seem to differentiate by clock speed. This was all done on a whim, so I haven't put my cards in this list yet—these were complied from ebay. Also on a whim, I bought a $7 card (the one at the bottom), and it was missing its stickers, so once I get it I'll put it in. If everymac is correct, then the PCC 604/180 is the fastest non-e 604. I don't have any other pci, pre-G3 power Macs but I'm sure you're correct in that the PCC cards could NOT be used in genuine Apple motherboards. Eventually I want to add the Apple cards to this list as well.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Sadly, no Just the PowerWave at present. I would buy this if they shipped… https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/sys/d/south-saint-paul-apple-mac/7026386503.html
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Because the PowerWave was based on the original Tsunami design? So the 604e 85/9500 used a revised design then? Hooked it up and tried last night—it could reset the PRAM like nothing was wrong to begin with… PCC used to brag that you didn't "have to pay extra for the keyboard" and I guess there's a reason for that! I was talking it up in my head, with it's wired connection plus TWO ADB ports for peripherals, and the echoes of the EKII on the sides, full extended layout with F-keys and 10-key. But yeah, I can't even move, run, and strafe at the same time in DOOM with the PCC keyboard I need an Apple Design Keyboard to test against, as it was more of the contemporary around PCC's rise to prominence, right? I wonder, since I'm not really going to be using the Mach64 elsewhere, if I should just plop both cards in there for the unlikely event that something goes awry… I still want to track down anything documented about the more modern PCI cards jacking up these 1st gen PCI designs.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    That would make me feel less inane That only happened with the 225 MHz PCC daughtercard, actually. Not with the 132 or with the PoweForce G3 (currently installed), and hasn't repeated itself. It was incredibly weird though. As far as the other machines I've used it in, I have 0 issues with the card, pre-, post-, or with a PRAM reset. The only OWR machine that's given me issues is the PowerWave I did experience that sort of monitor wake thing, but I leave it for minutes on end (in the PowerWave) and I get nothing. Part of me wants to get another NWR graphics card and see if it's repeated.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Y'know, that's something that crossed my brain and immediately dismissed out of stubbornness/pride I had talked up the keyboard in my head... I have been using the PCC adb keyboard ever since I got it, and noticed some anomalies, mostly while playing DOOM— not being able to maneuver like I'm accustomed to. I'll test it out with my AEKII. Thanks for the thought.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Runs just dandy on my 4400 and my beige PMG3. It's a Mac-specific card as well—came from a B&W G3. And, I mean, up until there's a board reset or the PRAM battery is taken out, it runs just fine. I'm kind of tempted to try it again now that I have my PowerLogix G3 daughtercard working. Part of me thinks something funky was going on with the two 604 cards, as they were not the originals that came with the machine (when I got it). It came with the G3, but was running OS 8.6. Right now it's running very stably, and with 0 issues. When I was doing the diagnoses with the other two cards I would get random freezes every now and again. I think I'll try that next just for kicks. Edit; nope. same story... this is almost to the comical stage for me.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    I thought I was making progress with my other CPU card (132), and I got the PRAM to zap just fine and booted up. Then I put the Rage128 in and it won't post again. Square one...
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Edit: this first test was with the 225/45 PowerComputing CPU card well, I ran TechTool 3 and got some interesting results... it failed on some aspects of the disc, but I can't get the TT CD to boot, so I can't do full repairs on the HDD. No surprises that there would be some after all these years. What was strange was it failed the CPU math test. Don't know what to make of that, to be honest. The repair advice mentioned a few things, but basically said a qualified technician would be able to give a proper diagnosis. One thing that was mentioned was bad solder joints... on the CPU daughtercard connector?
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    I should add, the PRAM battery is new and registering 3.666 V on my multimeter.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    I did try that, and thank you for your thoughts. Turns out now that I can't zap the PRAM with alt+cmd+p+r ...that is very odd. When I try it just makes the machine hang on a black screen, no chime, nothing. Maybe that's a bigger issue here So so far the only method that works is pull the PRAM battery, put the Mach64 in, boot it, get everything set up, shut down, replace the Mach64 with the Rage128 (no board reset, no PRAM reset). Then it works. But there's something fishy going on here... I'm really starting to wonder if there's something wrong with the foundational aspects, maybe the ROM? Something else?
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Now that I'm thinking more about it, again, not familiar with the particulars of the classic OS loading order, I wonder if the OS would really have much bearing on the card's compatibility. I'm thinking no, but someone correct me. So when I boot I get: 1) chime, 2) the monitor going from standby to actual black (getting signal?), 3) then head seek on the HDD, 4) then back to standby, and it hangs. Is it loading parts of the OS at that time, or is it just reading the ROM and prepping everything to load the OS? I'm loading my questions with a lot of supposition… barring any software snafus, I wonder what other hardware considerations there are to think about.
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    PowerWave weirdness | picky about video card

    Are you running 7.6.1 in that puppy?
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