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  1. My 8500 started life as a 120mhz machine. I was able to get it from well known Seattle computer recycler REPC for a superb price. I fired it up and discovered it is sporting a g3 sonnet at 550mhz. It will be my appleip server as soon as I dig one of my 50gb scsis out of its hidey hole and clone the 1gb SCSI it has. It is relative identical in speed and introduction time frame to the power wave. I suspect that your machine must be equally as capable. That is why I was surprised the 225 wasn't working. Your list will be invaluable at some point. It would be a nice reference chart for those of us who work on these typenof machines. When I have the chance, I will see if I can add any of my processors to that list...umax s900-233, 250 with coprocessor, the aforementioned power computing 210, the apple 180mp, i think that is it. Probably one or two in storage....
  2. That is a nice one. Good speed and all. However, as with three of my Power Computing machines, there could be a G3 upgrade hiding inside. Addendum. The 8500-180 has a 604e, so I dont think I would have a problem trying out my 180mp. It shouldn't be a problem for a 604e in your machine. But I have read that the PowerComputing CPU cards can't be put in a mac, but the apple CPU cards can run in the Powercomputing machines. Maybe you can find a cheap 180/604e to try out and see if you can get some success there.
  3. Hey Jessenator, do you have a newer model of powercomputing computer that you could test the CPU in? I neglected to consider that the card itself could have an issue. A power tower pro, i think, might be useful in checking CPU functionality. Some time back i ran across a small list of CPU compatibility between the 604 powers Macs. I didnt save it at the time. I dont know if there is such a list for the clones.
  4. I found the thread, it is an 8500 board in a desktop case. The thread is "Odd Power Macintosh 7xxx? Setup" from hyperneogeo. The CPU is an overclocked 604ev, not 604e. I should have gone looking first before blabbing. But that raises a couple of questions. 1. Can the 8500 actually run an ev, or was that board modded like the CPU? And 2. Is there anyone on 68kmla who knows any power computing secrets they are willing to spill...i mean, share?
  5. With regards to the 604e running on the 85/9500, I can't really say. I believe there is a thread on the board that shows a crossover 8500 prototype running a 604e. It could be a revision change, as they went forward into the next model line, to test out CPU hardware. That board may or may not be modified. Apple always held onto some specs, and didn't let the market know what else their products could do. Like the 1gb limit on later emacs actually being 2gb. Maybe the same for Power Computing?
  6. I remembered something about the powerwave that I read on LEM. I had been looking for info as I own four power computing computers, powercenter, power tower pro, power tower, and I think another power center. Three g3/g4 upgrades, and one has a 210 604e in it. Anyways, the powerwave is a 604 machine, and your 225 CPU daughter card is a 604e. The powerwave may not be able to correctly run the 604e. Kinda like my 8500. It has a g3 sonnet, designed to deal with what most of the PCI powermacs require, but I dont know that it has the ability to run the 604e. I have a 180 mp w that i have thought about testing, but i need a bit more research before i try it.
  7. I forgot to add some more info on the s900. it could pertain to the power clone machines as well. There was a card population issue. This cars in slot one, that one in slot two, etc. Sometimes the cards would be recognized and run fine, other times the operator had to move the cards around until a workable order was discovered. I.e. video card in the first slot, SCSI controller in the third slot. Might that be something to examine?
  8. Do you have another PCI mac to test the rage 128 on? Aside from the test showing a possible issue on the board, from what you have written, the machine works with the original card, but goes toes up with the rage. It seems likely that it may be that the card is bad, or it is not a mac card. It is possible that the clone cant see it as it is not there for it to see.
  9. Have you tried placing the video card in a different slot? There may be an issue with the newer card running in that slot. I ask as I am reminded of posts on another site regarding the design of the Umax SuperMac 900 models regarding card placement being an issue. Some folk had issues with card hierarchy, kind of like the scsi addressing system. It had something to do with the bus controller I believe. "When PowerPC was outlawed, only outlaws had PowerPC. I am a PowerPC outlaw."
  10. ppcoutlaw

    Jessenator's conquests

    If there are no attachment holes for a heat sink, that means it had a plastic frame that had two edges on it that slide under the edge of the cpu. The plastic frame has a centrally located, threaded hole in its center that sits over the chip die. An appropriately designed aluminum heat sink will screw in there, and as it is made snug against the die, pulls on the plastic frame edges that are under the chip edges, thus making the heat sink secure. If I recall correctly, the heat sink is blue or black in color, and it is a rounded shape.
  11. ppcoutlaw

    Dead eMacs (Model A1002)

    I was thinking about your issue with getting your emac to boot up and a dim recollection of my own emac came to the fore. The keyboard could have an issue. I had a problem with my unit not booting when I first got it. As it had no keyboard with it, I picked up a used,untested emac keyboard. I seem to remember that it would not boot. I tried another emac keyboard and it worked. It was several years ago, but it might help to test out the keyboard on another mac to see if it is any good, and to find a good tested keyboard to take another try at it. Also, it is possible you have a bad ram stick. Best of luck to you!
  12. ppcoutlaw

    Dead eMacs (Model A1002)

    Well, non-bulged caps is a good sign. You may not have to do anything there. I just checked and found these two apple discussion web pages that may help with your reluctant Macs. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/518038 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1147126 both links will give you a better idea on how to raise your eMacs from the dead. The advice seemed to help some of the folks who had the same problem.
  13. ppcoutlaw

    Dead eMacs (Model A1002)

    It seems to me that I have read of some of the earlier eMacs, 700, 800, and 1ghz models had issues with the capacitors going bad on some units. This could be a. factor. Also, you may wish to remove one stick of ram and try to start it then. And from frequently ghosting over other topics on the forum, it appears that dirty contacts on removable "cards" of any type, is. CPU, i/o, cache, or ram, could be a.factor in your machine not starting up.
  14. ppcoutlaw

    Dead eMacs (Model A1002)

    When PowerPC was outlawed, only outlaws had PowerPC. I am a PowerPC outlaw.