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  1. VMSZealot

    Oddly Behaving G4

    And the prize goes to Bolle! Thank you - you're a top bloke and all round diamond geezer who definitely knows where his towel is. My G4 is happy again!
  2. VMSZealot

    Oddly Behaving G4

    The Mulitprocessor Plugin theory sounds interesting. Where is this plugin? It's not loose in the System folder AFAICS, nor in the Extensions folder. What's it called?
  3. I have a G4 Digital Audio - which is behaving very oddly. The specification, for reference and in case this has a bearing on matters, is that it has 1GB RAM, DVD-RW, Zip 250, a Sonnet Duet 1.6GHz accelerator, Sonnet SATA card (with a 500GB SATA drive attached), Maxtor 75GB hard drive, Maxtor 110GB hard drive, ATI Radeon 9000 Pro (the official Apple upgrade), Sonnet USB 2 card, Adaptec SCSI card (originally from my old 9600), and a generic 802.11g Wifi card. By and large my old Mac works perfectly. It'll boot Leopard 10.5.8 and run stably (although a little noisily) for days on end. Ditto Tiger 10.4.11 (and the classic environment). It'll run MorphOS without raising a sweat. But I'll be damned if I can get it to boot MacOS 9.2.2 - which, of course, I want to run some of my favourite old games (Carmageddon 1 and 2, Star Wars Racer, Deus Ex). It starts booting OK. But right at the point when the inits and cdevs stop loading and it hands over to Finder, it hangs. Mouse pointer stops moving. It gives up. Which is frustrating. And it doesn't matter whether I'm trying to boot from the OS 9 install for Classic on my Tiger disk or a freshly formatted disk (with OS9 drivers and without Journalling) - or even from the original OS 9 install disk. Whatever I do, the result is the same. I've tried removing all the expansion cards, disconnecting all the USB devices except for the keyboard and mouse, resetting PMU and PRAM. Nothing makes a damned bit of difference. I'd reinstall the original processor - except that I don't have it anymore, and I'm sure that I read that the Duet is OS 9 compatible. Am I missing essential drivers? Does anyone have any suggestions? What have I missed here!?
  4. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    Excellent. Detailed instructions please? I couldn't get it to work at stripping / converting - but I'd love to know how to.
  5. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    Okay. So there's a new version up on GitHub which does more to reformat email so that it displays correctly with classic Mac email clients. More work needs to be done to strip extended Unicode (emoji), and (for some reason) some messages are losing their subjects. All this is fixable. SMTP is slightly more working - it can send, and send to the correct recipient, but what it sends is incomplete / nonsense. I suspect that I need to reformat the classic email to be compatible with modern SMTP servers. More investigation required. Progress has also been made on displaying vintage internet correctly using classic web browsers (I think)… Watch this space.
  6. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    Okay, so there are a few things to do first (not least letting me know what system you built on, and what errors you saw. Email them to me at the 45RPM Software support address.) There shouldn't be any build errors or warnings. Next, look in the mail folder that you configured in your configuration file. How many emails are there? If there are only four emails there then further thought / investigation is required into how your email is being retrieved. If that mail folder is full(er) then it may be that Eudora Lite is using the POP server in a way that I haven't fully implemented. My focus has been on Claris Emailer - so I've only implemented the functionality (so far) that Emailer users. Check the console for the messages being sent to the POP server - and send me that list as well so I can implement anything else that I've missed. Right now, retrieval works well for me - and I've made inroads on reformatting email for classic compatibility (albeit that the current solution is a bit hacky). SMTP does not work yet though. Watch this space.
  7. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    @mactjaap - Love to. Er. How? As to the deletion bug, it's a brown paper bag job. I'm deeply embarrassed, and I hide my head in shame. I'll fix it immediately. Before anyone notices, hopefully!
  8. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    How odd. What computer are you viewing from? The images are hosted at http://45rpmsoftware.com/NetGateway/PICTURE1.jpgand http://45rpmsoftware.com/NetGateway/PICTURE2.jpg - can you see them if you go there directly? Maybe try https?
  9. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    Okay - so I still haven't entirely decided what it's called, and it's still only partially working, but here it is https://github.com/PascalHarris/NetGateway - have fun. I've got rather a lot on at the moment, so I make no promises as to when I'll finish writing it, but it has tremendous scope for improvement (reformatting email into a more vintage friendly format, for example - as you can see, there are escape codes in the UTF which it definitely doesn't like) - and it may be that others have good ideas for how to improve it. If you do want to improve it, be sure to make your commits with full and detailed comments - otherwise I'll reject them. Not out of spite, but just because I don't have time to work out what your change does and why. Be sure to read the Preliminary Instructions file first - it'll tell you how to install and configure this tool. If you have any questions feel free - but, in the meantime, behold the LCIII reading modern Gmail. Neat, huh?
  10. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    Okay - so progress has been made and screenshots will be available soon. Claris Emailer and Eudora are both able to retrieve email from Gmail successfully (without enabling POP on Gmail). SMTP isn't working yet, and neither is entirely happy with displaying some modern email - fortunately though, owing to the way my software works, I can fix this - the email can be interpreted and reformatted when it gets sent to the vintage computer. That's for another day though - I want to get SMTP working first. I think I've had a bit of a cunning plan for getting Internet working too. My thoughts are that vintage computers don't actually need to display modern internet. No one with a vintage computer is going to be doing Facebook, Internet Banking, ordering things from Amazon, or watching iPlayer. Browsing certainly - but a computer from 1995 (or earlier) isn't really going to need Internet more advanced than Internet from the late 20th Century. That being the case, there's a ready source of Internet Pages good to go - no need for (much) reformatting. It's called Wayback Machine - and, yes, it's a little slow - but so are our computers. Here is how I think that it might work: Raspberry Pi (or other computer) is the gateway. Vintage computer makes a request for, say, www.apple.com Gateway computer receives request and looks in its configuration to see what date page it should be requesting (for example, the gateway might be configured to request pages from 1998). It will try to retrieve the page within that timespan but, if it can't get it, it will edge forward through time until it finds a page that matches. Once it gets the page it removes the floating Wayback Machine bar and sends the page on to the requesting vintage computer. The gateway computer would also have a simple search engine webpage on it to provide a launching point to Wayback Machine. So, any thoughts anyone? Any objections to this method, or suggestions on how to make it work?
  11. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    My tool is coming along more slowly than I'd hoped (the pressures of work and all that!) but it can now fetch email from multiple accounts and serve them up to a classic Mac - any classic Mac capable of running an email client. As long as it can connect to the server (using Ethernet or SLIP) then my tool will work. I haven't put the code on Git yet because I haven't (yet) finished SMTP. I confess that I couldn't work out how to make stunnel work, although that's probably just an example of me being dense. Example configuration files, with annotations describing what each setting does, for common email services like Gmail and iCloud, might be helpful. That said though, unless I am missing something, I suspect that my tool might have value for some users - not least because a client (the classic Mac) can connect using POP3 and receive their email from an IMAP server. I don't believe that this is what stunnel was designed to be able to do. Perhaps, though, if you could make stunnel easier to configure (or, at least, provide detailed examples covering the settings for stunnel for common email providers (as mentioned previously) and also the settings that need to be used in common Classic email software to work with stunnel (Eudora, Emailer, Outlook Express etc)), someone could roll up an easy to set up Linux server image to serve up internetty goodness to the retro computing community…
  12. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    No information on the eWorld protocols? Never mind. Here's a progress update for you. IMAPS functionality is now implemented and tested with Google. I haven't tried it with iCloud yet. I will, but first I want to get POP working. Once POP is working, I'll get SMTP going - and then build an installer and put it on GitHub for you all to play with.
  13. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    As I say, within the month I aim to get a universal installer out (when I say universal installer, i mean an installer that you can download and use to install my software on any Linux / Unix machine, be it PC, RPi, old PPC Mac…) and open source the code on Git Hub. Then you can try it, improve it, make suggestions or roll it into your own solutions. The first version will handle email only, and specifically tested with iCloud and Gmail. The next version will extend to being a web proxy. Then I'd like to add syncing for contacts and calendar - and we'll see where we go from there. Actually, and for the fun of it, if anyone knows the protocol specifications for eWorld perhaps we could resurrect that too!
  14. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    In fairness, I'm doing more than discussing. I'm writing too (and, within the next few weeks, I'll open source what I've done so that anyone who's hacked off with current solutions can help with something better). This is more than idle chat. This is happening. Legacy web seems like a nice idea - but it either doesn't work (from what I've read) or is tricky to configure. It also relies on stunnel which isn't the easiest software to use. Mozilla for ppc already exists, of course, in the form of Classilla - but it's slow, and ppc only. I aim to fix this by using a helper machine (RPi) to get a fast, 68k solution working. Others may baulk at the idea of a solution which isn't running entirely on the Mac - but I think I have to accept that times (and security standards) have moved on and our old machines need a little help.
  15. VMSZealot

    Old Mac, Modern Internet

    I think that it helps if you have a specific use case. My specific use case isn't merely the bloody mindedness of using a 20-30 year old computer today. I actually use my old Mac as part of the coding process for my new software - the reasons are twofold. Firstly, I'm too cheap to buy a new copy of Fontographer and emulation doesn't work brilliantly for 'real' work with this software. Secondly, i find the old OS very human scale and easy to get on with. I don't have a need for internet banking or Facebook or, or, or. But if I'm on my old machine, I don't want to swap to the new one just for a spot of email or to look something up on Wikipedia, Stackoverflow or similar (including posting/reading here or downloading from Macintosh Garden). If I can get this basic functionality to work then it makes my day easier. And if it helps someone else then all the better. Finally, I don't like the solutions which are out there already. They're unnecessarily kludgy or hard to use. Cutting my own solution also provides a welcome excuse to code, and I'd code my own breakfast if I could! Above all though, I don't want to get all religious and warry about it. If my idea works for you then great. If it doesn't then it doesn't. There's no need to get fighty about it.
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