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Daystar FastCache & SuperMac VideoSpigot

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FireWire is fast General, 4 star USA 1559 Posts	Posted - 18 Mar 2002 : 21:18:26 well...I went to used-mac store near me and found the above cards... FastCache: The most I know about this is that is a cache card for the IIci. I already have the 32k Apple Cache card (which, combined with 32mb of RAM and a 230 mb HD runs system 6 like nobody's business). How large exactly is this Daystar one? Were there multiple sizes? Will I see a considerable real world performance increase in comparison to my Apple cache card? I did a google search for it, but didn't really find much info... VideoSpigot: Well, this one has 1 composite out port for connecting to a TV. I know I could probably find drivers (if necessary), but is a TV (coax-only: i'd have to get some sort of modulator) really that great as a monitor (only for games, and the like)? I was going through my stuff and found a "Modulator" from an Apple IIc. It converts the DB-15 to composite. It doesn't physically fit my Macs (bad ID - plastic molded to fit around the back of the IIc only), but if I get a female->male DB-15 cable, it should work on a q650, right (in which case i wouldn't need the VideoSpigot) they would let me have the cache card for 30 bucks and the spigot for 20 bucks? good deal? -------------------- keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™ -------------------- Edited by - FireWire is fast on 18 Mar 2002 22:53:23
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 18 Mar 2002 : 21:48:51 quote: well...I went to used-mac store near me and found the above cards... FastCache: The most I know about this is that is a cache card for the IIci. I already have the 32k Apple Cache card (which, combined with 32mb of RAM and a 230 mb HD runs system 6 like nobody's business). How large exactly is this Daystar one? Were there multiple sizes? Will I see a considerable real world performance increase in comparison to my Apple cache card? I did a google search for it, but didn't really find much info... they would let me have the cache card for 30 bucks and the spigot for 20 bucks? good deal? did you find these? http://www.shobaffum.com/iici/benchmarks.html http://njcc.com/~hjohnson/m_parts.html#mon june 91 MacUser Review listed in tidbits: IIci Cache Cards, pg. 124 DayStar FastCache IIci iir Cache Card 32 Micron Xceed IIci Technology Works Cache Card 64 TMS Cache Card 64 Total Systems QuickCache IIci UR Micro MacCache 64 UR Micro MacCache LP32 http://homepage2.nifty.com/shunno/shunno/oldmac/parts/ is the spigot related tothe card cine was just posting about today? jt
FireWire is fast General, 4 star USA 1559 Posts	Posted - 18 Mar 2002 : 22:27:33 gah!! macuser.co.uk won't let me register! it says my password can only contain letters, numbers and "_" but I tried with only letters, and letters, a number and an underscore.. achg!!! calms down I don't think this was the same 'Spigot... -------------------- keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™ --------------------
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 18 Mar 2002 : 22:43:46 quote: calms down I don't think this was the same 'Spigot... good, don't get upset. that might have been the us macuser, i thought i posted the link, but i guess i didn't. dunno if he got the name right, but i found something at: http://www.lowendmac.com/forsale.shtml hey, cinemo! you should check that link out for your 256k VRAM SIMMS! 4/$10 jt
FireWire is fast General, 4 star USA 1559 Posts	Posted - 18 Mar 2002 : 22:54:28 whups! I think I got SuperMac and Radius mixed up! adjusts thread name there. all better. -------------------- keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™ --------------------
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 18 Mar 2002 : 23:52:48 quote: whups! I think I got SuperMac and Radius mixed up! adjusts thread name there. all better. -------------------- keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™ -------------------- slim, trim new sig, eh? maybe, ya better give up on names as well as spelling and grammar, fw! http://www.poweron.com/1-800-673-6227/monitor.htm i think it's a video digitizer not a video-out kinda deal: http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/ccp14/ftp-mirror/nih-image/pub/nih-image/plug-ins/0README.txt (somebody else was looking for this kind of stuff) radius info: http://www.kan.org/6100/nubus.html this is an interesting site overall, a lot is 68k applicable: http://www.kan.org/6100/ The Quick & Dirty Network for Macs & PCs http://www.kan.org/networking/quicknet.html ciao! jt
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 19 Mar 2002 : 09:04:59 The DayStar FastCache is 64k but doesn't offer much better performance than the 32k Apple cache card in a IIci. Take a look at these benchmarks. The only significant difference is a 3% increase in disk performance. The VideoSpigot is a digitizer/capture device (not output), and is about as good as the on-board video capture on a Quadra 660av/840av (i.e., 4-6 fps). It's designed for making small-frame quicktime clips to be used on the web or on CD-ROM's/etc. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 Regular Disappear! Edited by - cinemafia on 19 Mar 2002 09:05:45
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 19 Mar 2002 : 09:34:11 P.S. - One more thing, before you try using a TV as a work monitor, read what I said in this thread. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 Regular Disappear!
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 19 Mar 2002 : 09:51:51 quote: The DayStar FastCache is 64k but doesn't offer much better performance than the 32k Apple cache card in a IIci. Take a look at these benchmarks. The only significant difference is a 3% increase in disk performance. The VideoSpigot is a digitizer/capture device (not output), and is about as good as the on-board video capture on a Quadra 660av/840av (i.e., 4-6 fps). It's designed for making small-frame quicktime clips to be used on the web or on CD-ROM's/etc. actually there were 32k versions also. would the improved math routines help to get mpegdec to run on a ci? yes! another correct guess! jt
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 19 Mar 2002 : 10:57:19 quote: would the improved math routines help to get mpegdec to run on a ci? I doubt it...but it's worth a try. I'm going to be receiving my Turbo '040 for my own IIci soon, though. I'll see how well it along with a PAS-16 audio card run MpegDec! 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 Regular Disappear!
FireWire is fast General, 4 star USA 1559 Posts	Posted - 19 Mar 2002 : 19:48:59 wel, I know that TVs suck as a normal monitor, but i would only be using the TV as a large second monitor for games of Wolfenstein, Marathon, and the like... Guess I don't need the FastCache since I already have the Apple Cache card...guess I won't need the VideoSpigot either considering I don't really have a use for it (too slow to import/playback 60 second scenes from VHS movies?) That Apple IIc modulator should work, right? -------------------- keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™ --------------------
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 20 Mar 2002 : 20:18:16 quote: That Apple IIc modulator should work, right? I'm still thinking its designed for a resolution lower than 640x480...the Apple II series machines ran at very low resolutions. -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 5
FireWire is fast General, 4 star USA 1559 Posts	Posted - 20 Mar 2002 : 20:43:53 quote: quote: That Apple IIc modulator should work, right? I'm still thinking its designed for a resolution lower than 640x480...the Apple II series machines ran at very low resolutions. Well...an adapter like that should be non-resolution specific, no? -------------------- keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™ --------------------
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 22 Mar 2002 : 17:00:18 quote: P.S. - One more thing, before you try using a TV as a work monitor, read what I said in this thread. Actually, cinemafia, TVs aren't all that bad, depending on what type of modulator you are using. Right now i'm typing this from my LC630, connected to a 51cm Panasonic TV through my Apple Presentation System. The box is actually a FOCUS Enhancements L*TV Portable Pro, but has been rebadged by Apple, and i'm extremely impressed by it. Right now as i type this, my menu bar is extremely clear and legible, as is Netscape's title bar. I can also see the control strip quite well, as i can what i am typing, as well as all the other text on 68kMLA Forums. However, in the Finder, i can barely see the names of icons. Thats the only bad thing. Other than that, i really am impressed with the performance of scan converters, and, let me tell you, are they good for games! You should see how FA/18 Hornet looks! Of course, i wouldn't want to do a lot of word processing on this, but still, its a great system for games, movies and web surfing and stuff. I heartily reccommend it to anyone who has a TV bigger than their computer screen. -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 5
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 22 Mar 2002 : 17:17:54 Cool, MacLover, that FOCUS box does do a good job of displaying to a tv. Just be careful of static images!* Okay, now I'm* getting into alarmist mode, too! 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 Regular Disappear!
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 25 Mar 2002 : 16:54:52 quote: Cool, MacLover, that FOCUS box does do a good job of displaying to a tv. Just be careful of static images!* Okay, now I'm* getting into alarmist mode, too! 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 Regular Disappear! Heh I know...thats why i have my trusty copy of AfterDark working overtime. -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6!!! QFW68KPB Project SUCCESS!!!!!

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