SCSI to SATA?

[l008com]

What are people doing these days to put SATA drives in old 68K Macs that only have internal SCSI?

In my PowerMac 7300, I just put an IDE PCI card in there, then use a cheapo IDE to SATA inline board to run that machine off of a 2.5" SATA laptop style drive. A drive that is dirt slow in a modern Mac but is insanely fast for the late 90s

But if I get a 68K Mac to run as a suuuuuper low power web server project, I'd still want to run it off of a modern drive. But it's not going to have PCI slots.
I don't have a specific Mac picked out but lets say something like a Quadra 650. A few NuBus slots but no PCI. I assume there is no such thing as a NuBus/ATA-IDE card? When I google it, all I get is a link back to a very old post in this very forum.

Are there any solutions?
If there are solutions, are any of them sanely-priced?

If not, then am I really stuck with finding super old SCSI-2 3.5" hard drives that somehow haven't shit the bed yet?

 

[Byrd]

There are plenty of options for modern hard drive replacements, what about a Blue or Zulu SCSI, install a high quality SD card and you're away.

 

[Phipli]

What are people doing these days to put SATA drives in old 68K Macs that only have internal SCSI?

In my PowerMac 7300, I just put an IDE PCI card in there, then use a cheapo IDE to SATA inline board to run that machine off of a 2.5" SATA laptop style drive. A drive that is dirt slow in a modern Mac but is insanely fast for the late 90s

But if I get a 68K Mac to run as a suuuuuper low power web server project, I'd still want to run it off of a modern drive. But it's not going to have PCI slots.
I don't have a specific Mac picked out but lets say something like a Quadra 650. A few NuBus slots but no PCI. I assume there is no such thing as a NuBus/ATA-IDE card? When I google it, all I get is a link back to a very old post in this very forum.

Are there any solutions?
If there are solutions, are any of them sanely-priced?

If not, then am I really stuck with finding super old SCSI-2 3.5" hard drives that somehow haven't shit the bed yet?

I've not heard of any way to get SATA in a 68k Mac, but like Byrd says, there are a number of SCSI SD adapters available.

ZuluSCSI, MacSD and BlueSCSI have multiple options available.

 

[Builder68]

What are people doing these days to put SATA drives in old 68K Macs that only have internal SCSI?

Interesting! Where are you seeing folks talk about using SATA? I'd love to see the context on that.

 

[Phipli]

But if I get a 68K Mac to run as a suuuuuper low power web server project

I didn't spot this, if the objective is a 68k web server, that's fine...

If the objective is "suuuuuper low power"... I don't think a vintage Mac is the best answer Old doesn't always mean low power. I've seen modern machines hundreds of times more powerful than a 90s Mac draw less power than the standby / powers off draw from a 90s Mac!

You might do better with a modern Arm Single Board Computer of some description, or a low power x86 "Nuc" style computer.

 

[finkmac]

SCSI to SATA adapters do exist, but they're rather expensive and very overkill for the SCSI-1 bus in a 68k mac.

 

[Torbar]

BlueSCSI


to MicroSD to M.2


to an M.2 to Sata adapter





(not a real suggestion, real suggestion is just use a BlueSCSI, MacSD, ZuluSCSI, and a good quality SD card)

 

[mikes-macs]

if I get a 68K Mac to run as a suuuuuper low power web server project, I'd still want to run it off of a modern drive.

well I want gigabit Ethernet on my Mac SE.

You don't need that much space on a 68k Mac anyway. Files are small, programs are small. Volume maximum limits are low. Use multiple SCSI drives or Apple Shares from Servers with large volumes to load stuff. Perhaps large ATA drives with shares from a PPC Mac. Boot from a RAM disk if possible. 68k Macs are more fun to use when you have access to something such as a more modern Mac with an Archive of utilities and software to install from. An Ethernet connection to PPC Mac with shares is not terrible for backups and installs. Most of us have at least one Bridge Mac.

There are large SCSI drives if you can find one. They are around 300GB to 600GB for 10K/15K RPM models, such as the Seagate Cheetah 15K or 300GB Ultra-320 SCSI drives, but I'm not sure they are appropriate for a 68K Mac.