Powerbook 190cs help!

[Strimkind]

See last post

Just tonight I was able to get enough time to clear preferences to get my PB 190cs online.

It has 8.1 installed right now with a bunch of crap the previous owner had on it.

There is also a 7.5.5 system on here that is disabled.

I was thinking of doing a fresh install but not sure of what system.

8.1 is a bit slow on 28MB RAM. 7.5.5 was a bit better. Any recommendations whether I should use 7.5.5, 7.6.1 or 8.1?

Its fun to surf on something so old, mind you its having a hard time keeping up with my typing (or at least iCab is).

 

[joshc]

7.6.1. Has everything you'll need and is very reliable and fast! I believe you can get IE5 running on these old machines if you have Appearance Manager installed.

 

[MultiFinder]

I'll throw in another vote for 7.6.1; 8.1 is a bit much for any 68k aside from a late quadra; you're really better off sticking with System 7. Faster, and still does 99% of the things System 8 will do.

 

[Morrick]

I agree, 7.6.1 is better. Time ago I downgraded my Duo 280c with 24 MB RAM from 8.1 and things got noticeably better.

Cheers,

Rick

 

[Strimkind]

Excellent. I shall try and install it tonight or tomorrow. I tried rebooting into 7.5.5 again and it is a heck of a lot faster but the damn tcp/ip can not find that it has ethernet available.

 

[Strimkind]

Ok, so installed 7.6.1 with OT 1.1.2 and the GV extensions and CPs. Still stuck on how to get TCP/IP to work with freePPP for ethernet (Or is that my problem).

Any ideas?

 

[porter]

Ok, so installed 7.6.1 with OT 1.1.2 and the GV extensions and CPs. Still stuck on how to get TCP/IP to work with freePPP for ethernet (Or is that my problem).
Any ideas?

Normally you use PPP for serial links. I would recommend the OT/PPP package.

What do you mean "freePPP for ethernet"? Do you need PPPoE?

 

[Strimkind]

Is that how it works? Its been ages since I tried to put any system 7 machine on the internet.

I am going to tinker and try something.

 

[Strimkind]

Ok, so after installing OT 1.3, the latest Global Village Software, and cleaning up the 2 old versions of OT in the system folder. It finally works, yay!

 

[joshc]

Nice one Strimkind - aint 7.6.1 just grand?

 

[thinkdifferent]

I agree, 7.6.1 is better. Time ago I downgraded my Duo 280c with 24 MB RAM from 8.1 and things got noticeably better.
Cheers,

Rick

System 7 is well known as one of the best OS's ever released by Apple. I run System 7.5 on my Powerbook 180 and it works great. I vote 7. 8 would run slower, too.

 

[Strimkind]

Done.

After hunting a little, I was able to Find a Wavelan Wireless card for $20, installed the drivers, and after a few bombs from CFM 68k enabler (no idea why). It works!

Now just waiting for the 32mb RAM card, and video out board and I will have a maxed 190cs

 

[Strimkind]

Ok, so I've installed a video out board and my 32MB SIMM. What would cause the sleep light to come on and stay on?

I have googled a bit but it just suggests to reset the pmu which has not worked.

I left it plugged in overnight but that has not changed anything.

Ideas?

 

[resx]

You may have some bad ram, or some other internal issue. I remember when I used to use my powerbook alot about every 5-6 weeks, at some random time, it would suddenly just have a stuck-on sleep led. My remedy was resetting the pmu, pulling the batter out, resetting again, then popping the battery back in. It would either boot automatically or not at all, and another reset would get it running.

 

[coius]

first of all, make sure EVERYTHING is seated right. Those connectors can be tricky iirc. I used to own a PowerBook 190, and it caused a lot of headaches, mostly from stuff coming unseated. I have also experienced with any machine that has a removable CPU. They have a habit of coming loose. Also, check to make sure the old RAM will boot the machine. Sometimes, if the RAM Is dead, it won't even do the mac equivalent of POSTing.

Did you hear ANYTHING from the speakers? Try plugging in a set of headphones or external speakers. I dunno, but sometimes things don't work right if the screen is unplugged.

Just simple stuff like that.

Also, check the card cage. That was another issue I had. It was annoying since It constantly came loose on me.

 

[alk]

The "GLOD" doesn't really happen on the 5300/190. Don't bother checking the PC card cage; it is soldered directly to the motherboard. I would guess it to be related to the PDS card (video out board) not being fully seated. On the 5300, this could also be because the PMU board isn't seated, but the 190 doesn't have a separate PMU - it's integrated onto the motherboard. In general, I second the suggestion of reseating everything with the most likely culprit being the PDS card. And if you reseat the PDS card, you'll have to reseat everything else along the way, anyway.

If it were incompatible RAM or defective RAM, you would most likely hear the chimes of death when trying to boot it instead of getting GLOD. (Yes, you can have incompatible RAM.) The only way I can think you'd end up with GLOD is if you have a really nasty short on the RAM card (or maybe it isn't seated).

Good luck!

Peace,

Drew