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New US Copyright Exemptions – Implications for Old Software?

It said you can hack the dongle if the hardware to run the software no longer exists. Since I expect the hardware will be around longer then a dongle would then what is the point?

Even if you can crack the software you will not be able to post a cracked version of the app/game, just your crack.

 
Even if you can crack the software you will not be able to post a cracked version of the app/game, just your crack.
By "just your crack, " do you mean instructions on how to perform the crack?
 
It could probably be the cracking code itself, instructions, whatever. I just meant that you cannot send the complete cracked app/code because of copyright issues. A patcher app would be ok, the app that is patched is not.

The language seems kind of baloney anyway. How would you know that they key/dongle is not for sale somewhere (1st party or ebay)? If you have the key and software but not the hardware do you have to scour the planet to see if it exists? What happens when you do crack something and all of a sudden the App maker starts selling it again?

All a software company has to do is make one dongle and list it on their website for $150,000, since it is available you cannot legally crack the software.

 
All a software company has to do is make one dongle and list it on their website for $150,000, since it is available you cannot legally crack the software.
One could probably argue that it is unreasonably-priced, and therefore, practically unobtainable.
 
My take on this is that the revision to the law only allows for physical dongles to be bypassed. From how I interpret it, this doesn't allow for, say, a copy-protected floppy to be bypassed (such as where you need the original floppy to run the software--very common in the 80s).

Also, with regards to your comments about "cracked" software--I agree with Unknown_K that only instructions would be postable, and even there, I'm sensing a bit of a legal gray area. The software itself, with or without bypassed dongle protection, would still be copyrighted.

As I said in another post on this forum not long ago, software copyright terms themselves are what need to be re-evaluated. Patching the existing law is a lot like releasing Mac OS 9.1 (or any post-7.6 version of the Mac OS) was--it built new code on an ancient structure filled with old technology that no longer made sense. In this case, they were built into provisions about books, movies, and music, all of which can survive 75 years under protection without any problem. Software's shelf life is far shorter, therefore, a reform to revise the terms makes perfect sense (mostly because the older programs, when public domain after, say, 15 years, would be perfect for coding classes to examine, charities to place on computers given to the poor free of charge, underfunded schools to use on donated machines, and so forth--not to mention it would help keep environmentally hazardous e-waste out of dumpsters since the useful life of equipment could be extended without having to hunt for long-discarded CDs). There would be major obstacles to overcome, but for now we can dream--and make do with DMCA and its provisions.

DMCA is far from perfect, but these steps are definitely welcome until something better can be drafted. I know I rub off as being a major proponent of copyright law on this forum, which I certainly am, but I am all in favor of some reform so that it works well for everyone.

Just remember--read these exemptions carefully to know your rights and limitations under these new provisions. Legalese is often tough to decode. I'll probably spend more time with the revisions later this week to make sure I'm reading them correctly, just as I do with many laws and bills that are passed/going through Congress. I'll let you folks know if I find anything of note.

 
Now anyone want to tackle the old Digi, and Avid dongles? I'm all for that!

It's a nightmare even finding the software let alone the right dongle AND the right hardware!

Luckily some of this stuff was done back then when it was very not right, so today we can actually USE the software with the hardware and enjoy those multi-thousand dollar systems of yesteryear for years to come that studios and corporations threw out when they were amortized.

Anybody have AViD Nubus 6.5.x?? }:)

 
Yeah, I long ago lost the dongle for my old CAD software ($1000 at the student price,) yet I would love to be able to install it and use it again. (It would be funny to watch my old drawings draw on a modern system. I recall one project taking 5 minutes to do a full-wireframe redraw, and half an hour to render gouraud shaded on the 486 I had at the time.)

 
It said you can hack the dongle if the hardware to run the software no longer exists. Since I expect the hardware will be around longer then a dongle would then what is the point?
i was listen to a podcast that they talked about this on. there take was just in case you bought a piece of expensive software you could still be able to hack it and use it even though the dongle is unavailable

 
I kind of wonder how this will affect the pay for cacks people. Years ago at a company I worked for we paid some Russian guy $400 (he still has a functional website) for a dongle crack so I didn't have to take the original dongle (app was $2000) in the field on my laptop and lose it. If you lost the dongle replacements were the same as rebuying the whole package. This guy was operating out of a country that didn't care about US laws. Now that this is somewhat legal will you see cheap cracks for all the old apps coming out?

 
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