mouse card adapters

[waynestewart]

I haven’t done much with the Apple II this spring and was looking for something to try. I was thinking that one of the rectangular ADB mice would look interesting on a II+.
I have a couple of different USB adapters for the mouse card and I also have a couple of adapters for ADB to USB. The only one handy is a Griffin iMate so I gave it a try. Tried both USB adapters but no luck. I haven’t used the iMate in an awfully long time so I tried it on a Mac MDD and it worked perfectly so that’s not the issue. I guess now I have to decide if I want to start digging through the Mac stuff to find the other adapter.

 

[joevt]

I am confused. What does USB have to do with a II+?
What does "USB adapters for the mouse card" mean?
What does "both USB adapters" refer to? One of them is the iMate?

As far as I know, the Griffin iMate should behave as a USB mouse and keyboard - no drivers necessary unless you want to add an entire ADB bus to support non-keyboard/mouse devices. I have one here and it works with my ADB mouse. Running macOS Monterey on a hackintosh.

Maybe there's an issue because the iMate supports two interfaces - one for keyboard and one for mouse? Check output from USB Prober.app to see what I mean.

I made a driver for my ADB Microsoft SideWinder 3D Pro for Mac OS X so it behaves as a HID device. I don't remember if I ever tried it on Intel macOS. I also made an iMate driver (because of some issue with their driver or to update it or something - I forget). There's also another third-party iMate driver you can find on the internet.

 

[waynestewart]

They make adapters that let you use a USB mouse with the Apple II mouse card or a Mac that uses 9 pin mice.
The iMate adapter was made to let you use an ADB mouse or keyboard on a USB Mac.
The idea was to have the USB adapter on the mouse card and then connect the iMate to it to use an ADB mouse on a Apple II with a mouse card

 

[joevt]

Do you have links to the Apple II Mouse to USB mouse adapters?

For the iMate, I suppose you just need to report the issue to the manufacturer of the adapter so they can provide a firmware update.

I've attached output from "USB Prober.app" (version 666.4.0) for Griffin iMate. Notice that Mouse is interface #1 instead of #0. I think they need to change their firmware to search for the first Interface Class: HID with Usage: Pointer.

One could make an Apple II Keyboard to USB Keyboard adapter? I suppose the Keyboard and Mouse should be on the same adapter so the adapter can get both from the iMate or any USB device that combines HID keyboard and pointer usage (or from a USB hub that has keyboard and mouse connected as separate devices).

 

[waynestewart]

One is from tinkerboy, the other I bought off ebay which still has them

https://www.tinkerboy.xyz/product/t...er-adapter-for-macintosh-with-db9-mouse-port/

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/126965649542?

I’m reminded that I do have a Wombat bi-directional ADB to USB adapter. I’ve only used it to connect USB to ADB but it’ll work the other way. It’s bigger than I wanted for this purpose and I need a USB A to USB A cable

 

[waynestewart]

I was looking through some stuff and found another adapter. No name on it but looks like a more compact iMate and this one worked