Mac webserver which can run on System 6??

[mactjaap]

Dos anyone knows a Mac HTTP server which can run on a Mac Plus ( 2 MB mem) with System 6.0.8 with one 800K floppy drive?

I almost had it done with MacHTTP 1.1 on a LocalTalk network with MacTCP 2.0.4.

But at the first connection from my Quadra with my browser (Netscape 2.0) the Mac crashes

Any help is welcome!!

 

[luddite]

Dos anyone knows a Mac HTTP server which can run on a Mac Plus ( 2 MB mem) with System 6.0.8 with one 800K floppy drive?

There was one in France that was running off two floppies, but I think it was 4 megs... it was running MacHTTP. IIRC he was loading his files onto a RAM disk, so it may be you could get away with 2 megs if you serve your files off disk.

 

[MrMacPlus]

You could always program your own, or pay someone else to do so.

 

[mactjaap]

You are RIGHT...the French site I spotted ten year ago. It is nw offline. I saved the page that day... I'm now very glad for this!!! This is his solution:

Welcome to this web site, which is brought to you by a 20 years old computer running 24h a day since Wednesday 7 november 2001. The web pages you are presently reading are hosted on one of the oldest unmodified personnal computer, used as a web server. Don't believe me ? Check Netcraft's what's that site running ?.

So, this server is quite unusual as a server : it has no hard disk, absolutely no fan, is 20 years old, and it runs at a tremendous speed of 8 Mhz, and it is one of the only -maybe the only - entirely floppy based internet web server ! Of course it is definitively not the fastest but surely one of the quietest and most economical web server of the world, because it cost me : nothing !

What is this huge computer ? It is a Macintosh Plus, built in 1986 by Apple Computer. It was a computer really in advance compared with the other personnal computers solded in these times. It was sold with 1 Mbyte of Ram upgradable to 4 Mbytes, built-in network abilities, native ability to pilot a 300 dpi laserwriter printer, and it shipped with a SCSI port which let you add any SCSI device you wish a scanner, an external hard disk, a 5,25" PC floppy drive, any kind of magnetical or optical storage (syquest, magneto optical drives, even a CD-rom).

But the best was not inside the machine, but inside the floppies, because the Mac shipped with a great OS, a great graphical interface, one of the most simple OS to use ever ! And it had -of course- a mouse, which lot of computer didn't have in these times. All these in 1986.

The fact is, there are a lot of old Macs around there that people still use, because they are always easier to use than old PC's. That's why lot of old Mac Plus are still in use today. In fact I am all but the first one to use a MacPlus as a Web server !

You can see below the characteristics of this Mac Plus :

Processor : Motorola MC68000

(32 bits registers, 16/24 bits adressing and 16 bits data path) running at 8 Mhz

Memory : 1 Mbyte of Ram upgraded to 4 Mbytes (with 30-Pin FPM Simm), 64 Kbytes Rom

Video Display : Built-in 9" monochrome display, graphical interface, 512 by 384 (no video ram : 24 Kbytes of the main ram are dedicated to the video )

Storage : two 800Kbytes 3.5" floppy drives (1 internal, one external)

no hard disk

Network : an Asante EN/SC ethernet interface

Accessories : Mouse and Keyboard (with numeric keypad), reset and interrupt switches

Software : system 7.0.1 (with mini-substitute and MacTCP 1.1.1) on one floppy, and AppDisk, MacHTTP 2.2 (and of course the html files of this site) on the other.

On a Plus with hard disk it is simle... I have a SE with 2MB RAM and a 20 MB harddisk. I had this one running with MacHTTP 2.2. This one also uses a system like that:

Welcome to the Macintosh Plus Web Server

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SchoolVision, Inc.

The Apple K-12 Sales Agent for Texas,

New Mexico, and Oklahoma.

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Demonstration of the power of the Macintosh.

Even with a Mac that is twelve (12), yes, twelve years old.

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This World Wide Server is being presented to you from a computer that was introduced in January, 1986.

It has 4 meg of RAM, running System 7.1, with an external 65 meg hard disk. The server software is MacHTTP, version 2.2.2, which is the predecessor to WebStar. Information on Mac HTTP and WebStar can be found at http://web.archive.org/web/19980109202237/http://www.starnine.com/.

The Mac Plus has a Motorola 68000 processor, running at 7.83 MHz, with a 32-bit internal data bus.

This is connected via LocalTalk (240kbps) to a Mac SE/30 running Apple IP Gateway and LocalTalk Bridge.

 

[porter]

MacHTTP etc all use AppleEvents to do CGI, which tends to imply System 7.

 

[MrMacPlus]

It would probably be in your best interest to upgrade the RAM, it's not that hard. System 7 may be your only hope and really isn't that bloated if you take out some unneeded extensions.

 

[mactjaap]

Is there someone with a copy of Mac TCP 1.1.1?? Would be great to test this setup!!!