lucky Kanga

[MacUp72]

Oh I got lucky..found a Kanga very cheap, wasnt expecting much from..
but:




it runs..even has a RAM expansion card in it, 128MB in total..awesome
just removed the green Varta PRAM battery, it even still has the back door.
the back cover is a bit scratched up and the closing hinge has broken off, but wth..

one part of the back door has broken off, the scratches on the back and the broken hinge hook

 

[MacUp72]

ok, that infamous baking soda-and-superglue method actually works..not pretty but solid now




fumbling around with XpostFacto a bit

 

[bibilit]

You can repair the back door cover easily. use a needle or similar, start heating one side and push it on the cover where the stand was before.

When done, heat the other side of the needle, and slide the broken stand on, the needle will secure both parts together.

 

[MacUp72]

the idea with the needle is also not bad..I actually was trying to glue a tiny strip of a steel spring at the side, but the baking soda method works now.

Jaguar 10.2. is up and running..well kinda..slow and trackpad is not working, maybe theres a little trackpad app?
..and ethernet are not working, but that was to be expected, this also on the XpostFacto page.
the install went without a glitch, very different from the 3400c.

but I'm quite happy with the fella right now

 

[MacUp72]

some RAM comparison


128MB from 3400c, not recognized in Kanga at all



Kingston 64MB recognized in Kanga




Memphis 96MB recognized in Kanga
silkscreened text says Hooper PB3400

 

[MacUp72]

I wanted to take a deeper look into the broken off closing hinge, not actually wanting to disassemble the display because it's in good condition (apart from the scratches). But interestingly I found that the broken off hinge nose was still stuck inside the display.



so I tried the superglue/baking soda method again, considering this a probable failure because..well, brittle, broken, small plastics.
Did three layers of glue/soda and after some drying time I took off most of the bulge with a little file.

I dont know exactly what happens on the chemical side ( maybe here someone can comment on that)..but it worked.
The combination seems to create a kind of new ( strong) crystilizing plastic-y mass?




all put together, it is latching again.

 

[Snial]

so I tried the superglue/baking soda method again, considering this a probable failure because..well, brittle, broken, small plastics.
Did three layers of glue/soda and after some drying time I took off most of the bulge with a little file.

I dont know exactly what happens on the chemical side ( maybe here someone can comment on that)..but it worked.
The combination seems to create a kind of new ( strong) crystilizing plastic-y mass?


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all put together, it is latching again.

Interesting, I didn't know about the Superglue-baking soda technique. Is there a link? I have to repair one the of the hinge end-caps on my PB1400, which has been damaged for the same, brittle-plastic issues everyone gets (and because they take quite a bit of effort to prise off, so damage is likely). I have some spare trackpad housing from a set of bits from another broken PB1400 and parts of that are the right thickness for being able to build up the clipping parts of the end-caps.

I've done it once already for another PB1400, so I know it can work, but it does take quite a bit of cutting and filing to get it right. I just used superglue which makes it a bit fragile on reassembly, so I'm wondering if the Superglue/baking soda approach would be better.

 

[MacUp72]

well I actually got this from Adam Savage on YT , he's a pro special effects technician ( MythBusters/star wars):
minute 10:00

and yes, I was sceptical about this because basic superglue holds just so-so..but adding some baking soda (natriumhydrogencarbonate) to it,
it immediately creates a strong additional bond. After that you have to work on that piece a little bit for fitting etc.

 

[MacUp72]

installed the SD-IDE adapter combo again in the machine ( after formating it with SD Card formatter) and copied two installed partitions over to the SD..it works but the SD is behaving a bit strange..
it sometimes has problems copying larger files and the OSX Jaguar install didnt work this time ( installer just stops), had no prob with the original HDD. Installed a fresh 9.1 but no change. Now back to the old HDD.

 

[AichEss]

As an OS Jaguar is such a slow wreck and really not complete. If XpostFacto can install Panther instead of Jaguar you would have a much better test of your hardware.

 

[3lectr1cPPC]

Jaguar is the limit for anything under a G3. Running OS X on one of these is completely impractical regardless, it’s not gonna be usable beyond a curiosity.

 

[MacUp72]

Well actually I was referring more to the behaviour of the SD card..meaning why is the old hdd still working better than the sd card with the jaguar install

 

[alectrona6400]

Gosh, the kanga is such a weird laptop.... isn't it literally just a PowerBook 3400 with a G3 processor? lol...

 

[LaPorta]

Jaguar is the limit for anything under a G3. Running OS X on one of these is completely impractical regardless, it’s not gonna be usable beyond a curiosity.

I've always wondered...what's the point? Just get a clamshell iBook.

 

[alectrona6400]

Just for fun probably... but frankly faster G3s and G4s are my minimum for OS X. Honestly I think it would be interesting to see it run on my PowerMac 6400 though I'm not quite sure if it would work even with the upgrade card. If I'm not mistaken the L2 CPU upgrades work by literally holding the main CPU hostage and by sending any requests through the L2 CPU upgrade with the use of an extension.

The snow iBooks and iBook G4s are great for OS X... those were (mostly) literally made for it. The clamshell can be a bit expensive, sadly; I have yet to find a parts unit to fix my blueberry.

 

[LaPorta]

Just for fun probably... but frankly faster G3s and G4s are my minimum for OS X. Honestly I think it would be interesting to see it run on my PowerMac 6400 though I'm not quite sure if it would work even with the upgrade card. If I'm not mistaken the L2 CPU upgrades work by literally holding the main CPU hostage and by sending any requests through the L2 CPU upgrade with the use of an extension.

The snow iBooks and iBook G4s are great for OS X... those were (mostly) literally made for it. The clamshell can be a bit expensive, sadly; I have yet to find a parts unit to fix my blueberry.

Are they expensive? I didn't realize.

 

[alectrona6400]

Normally I see working ones go for $150 at least.

 

[MacUp72]

well no doubt that Jaguar or any more modern OSX run better on an iBook clamshell/white iBook/Tit..they do quite well with mSata/IDE combo..that was not the point. The Kangas are one of the rarest PBs that are out there ( only 6 month in production) and Apples earliest generic G3 in a PowerBook at all ( the 3400 weren't G3 upgradable, only the 1400s and 2400s)
on the Kanga its just for fun ( the XpostFactor site has the most importants hints to the technical side), I wanted to test how it runs at all.
overall performance is great in 9.1. ( I'd love to test a G3 upgrade card in the 2400c)
maybe I'll give Panther a try ..and how the SD reacts to that

 

[MacUp72]

Interesting, I didn't know about the Superglue-baking soda technique. Is there a link? I have to repair one the of the hinge end-caps on my PB1400, which has been damaged for the same, brittle-plastic issues everyone gets (and because they take quite a bit of effort to prise off, so damage is likely). I have some spare trackpad housing from a set of bits from another broken PB1400 and parts of that are the right thickness for being able to build up the clipping parts of the end-caps.

I've done it once already for another PB1400, so I know it can work, but it does take quite a bit of cutting and filing to get it right. I just used superglue which makes it a bit fragile on reassembly, so I'm wondering if the Superglue/baking soda approach would be better.

did your 1400 soga/glue repair go well? I often found the little noses of the caps broken off on my 1400 machines..

 

[3lectr1cPPC]

maybe I'll give Panther a try ..and how the SD reacts to that

I’m not sure it can run on one of these - feel free to try though!