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- Thread starter MinerAl
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Yep piccie on the previous page. I hacked the power pin, your suggestion of hacking chip select is more elegant. I've been meaning to rewire it to one of my 143 Dip switches and hot glue that to the top of the ROM, but haven't gotten around to it, the jumper works fine.
Your hack is inspirational. :approve:
That's clear, but you've got a landslide going by tossing that one "little" rock down slippery the slope.I really just want to put a 475/605 board in a classic and slap a 1994 pout on the disk slot.
Your hack is inspirational. :approve:
Well, I'm on my way. Just won a Performa 460. Looks like I'll be starting with a Classic III+ instead
I'll just figure out how to get video to the Classic's built in black & white video for this one, then go full 256 grayscale for the Quadra Classic.
If all goes well, I'll have a line up: Classic, Classic II, Classic III+, and Quadra Classic
Wait, should I start by putting a regular LC III board in a cosmetically unmodified Classic to make the Classic III, so the III+ makes sense? Or maybe put an 020 LC board in one to make what the Classic II should've been, then rename the stock Classic II to "Classic III"...
I'm gonna have to buy more Classics!
Serious note: is there a thread with ideas on how to interface with the built in video on these little guys?
I'll just figure out how to get video to the Classic's built in black & white video for this one, then go full 256 grayscale for the Quadra Classic.
If all goes well, I'll have a line up: Classic, Classic II, Classic III+, and Quadra Classic
Wait, should I start by putting a regular LC III board in a cosmetically unmodified Classic to make the Classic III, so the III+ makes sense? Or maybe put an 020 LC board in one to make what the Classic II should've been, then rename the stock Classic II to "Classic III"...
I'm gonna have to buy more Classics!
Serious note: is there a thread with ideas on how to interface with the built in video on these little guys?
Yeah, not a minor hack like I was hoping. Thinking about alternatives now.
Thanks so much for the super helpful link btw. Never would've occurred to me to search the boards. :
phpBB search leaves a bit to be desired... I wound up just starting on page 6 of the hacks board and reading toward the present. Page 5 was eye opening for my proposed hack.I'll figure something out after I do the case mod maybe it'll have to spend a while longer as a Classic II on the inside.
Not to belabor my snarky reaction to being treated like a lazy newb, but my problem wasn't an inability to use search tools (I only use phpBB's search on non-public / invisible-to-google boards), but a lack of search terms before researching.
Perhaps I should've asked if anyone had some suggestions for search keywords relating to interfacing other-than-Classic logic boards with the Classic's video system.
Regardless, I found the threads I was looking for the brute force way, and learned a lot about a lot of other topics too. It's not a chore to read the helpful info stashed away in unrelated threads. I'll probably read the rest anyway. Beware of zombie threads if, heaven forbid, I have something to say or ask about.
marky: Thank you for the actually helpful search advice though!
Perhaps I should've asked if anyone had some suggestions for search keywords relating to interfacing other-than-Classic logic boards with the Classic's video system.
Regardless, I found the threads I was looking for the brute force way, and learned a lot about a lot of other topics too. It's not a chore to read the helpful info stashed away in unrelated threads. I'll probably read the rest anyway. Beware of zombie threads if, heaven forbid, I have something to say or ask about.
marky: Thank you for the actually helpful search advice though!
Searching anything with the tools here is the absolute pit. I have to wade through incredible amounts of dreck to find something when I KNOW the terms that should find it because I freakin' wrote it!
I'm getting tempted to make it a what-the-color-classic-should've-been with the tiny svga monitor that just arrived on my doorstep yesterday... I'd have to do some ugly back of the case modding though to fit the longer tube.
I'll keep my eyes open for Apple 12" mono monitors just in case. Hate to be stuck with the low resolution though.
I hope I don't have to resort to an LCD. That just feels like too far from the original idea. There's no point to the top 50% of the case without a tube in there.
I'll keep my eyes open for Apple 12" mono monitors just in case. Hate to be stuck with the low resolution though.
I hope I don't have to resort to an LCD. That just feels like too far from the original idea. There's no point to the top 50% of the case without a tube in there.
Very ugly case hacking.
You'll need to lop the mounting ears off the CRT and fit their remains into slots you'll need to make on the inside of the case sides. Not too bad if it's like mine was. IIRC, it fit really nicely except for the @$$ end. CRT curvature and image size were pretty much perfect.
I'd wanted to do a version of the BackPack(?) drive to hide the CRT Neck/Board, but the angles didn't work out, so I went for indescribably fugly . . .
. . . that, I achieved! :lol:
You'll need to lop the mounting ears off the CRT and fit their remains into slots you'll need to make on the inside of the case sides. Not too bad if it's like mine was. IIRC, it fit really nicely except for the @$$ end. CRT curvature and image size were pretty much perfect.
I'd wanted to do a version of the BackPack(?) drive to hide the CRT Neck/Board, but the angles didn't work out, so I went for indescribably fugly . . .
. . . that, I achieved! :lol:
Now yer talkin' my language, the CC was an abomination, being neither Color at an acceptable resolution for its size . . .
. . . nor was it a Classic by any stretch of imagination . . . more of an earlobectomized MacTV . . .
. . . but it looked fun as hell to hack!
)
Never mind the Quadra, go G3!!!!! }
p.s. if you weld it together, you can't get it apart, much less assemble it. Maybe your monitor has a more angular look from the back, that'd help a lot.
. . . nor was it a Classic by any stretch of imagination . . . more of an earlobectomized MacTV . . .
. . . but it looked fun as hell to hack!
) Never mind the Quadra, go G3!!!!! }
p.s. if you weld it together, you can't get it apart, much less assemble it. Maybe your monitor has a more angular look from the back, that'd help a lot.
I've added to my collection (again). A Performa 460 arrived after the new year... grumble UPS grumble... and I just won a Q605 for $35 shipped. The 460/475 case has very promising angles and curves for what I'm imagining for the case hack. I'm going to try some casting ideas before I decide to cut up any pizza boxes. I'm also interested in seeing the 605's contours to see if they better match, but I'd be really surprised if that we're the "case." HA!
I'll have to cut a hole for the pout, but the Classic II video was dead anyway, so this Mac was already dead. I'd be happy to send somebody the lobo if they want to try to get it to work again. The analog board is probably fried, but if somebody wants the video system out of this I can try to package and send it out.
Anyway my current idea is to grease the pout up on the 460 real good and make a plaster cast of it. Then I'll cut the pout zone out of the CII's face, position the new greased cast and fill in the spaces with vinyl wood filler to get a close to correct facia that I can tweak by sanding/filing.
Of course, I'll need a few hours to myself to accomplish this, and I haven't even had time to plug in my tiny VGA CRT yet. Things should be slowing down to a gallop soon so I may get the time to do the case hack and then figure out the monitor
I'll have to cut a hole for the pout, but the Classic II video was dead anyway, so this Mac was already dead. I'd be happy to send somebody the lobo if they want to try to get it to work again. The analog board is probably fried, but if somebody wants the video system out of this I can try to package and send it out.
Anyway my current idea is to grease the pout up on the 460 real good and make a plaster cast of it. Then I'll cut the pout zone out of the CII's face, position the new greased cast and fill in the spaces with vinyl wood filler to get a close to correct facia that I can tweak by sanding/filing.
Of course, I'll need a few hours to myself to accomplish this, and I haven't even had time to plug in my tiny VGA CRT yet. Things should be slowing down to a gallop soon so I may get the time to do the case hack and then figure out the monitor
I've got a new pout nominee for you, Al:
I just lopped off the two ends front bezel of eBay's Cheapest, FUGLIEST, FeetsLess 6100/60 . . .
The curvature looks pretty darn good for your purposes. The Radius of the arc is longer, so you can sand off the two ends of the pout, leaving the center untouched. Adding the floppy eje most evil Power Button implementation extant would, of course, be optional.
I'm looking into fabbing a Zip/HDD ZFP front bezel along the lines of what you're doing to the Classic.
I just lopped off the two ends front bezel of eBay's Cheapest, FUGLIEST, FeetsLess 6100/60 . . .
The curvature looks pretty darn good for your purposes. The Radius of the arc is longer, so you can sand off the two ends of the pout, leaving the center untouched. Adding the floppy eje most evil Power Button implementation extant would, of course, be optional.
I'm looking into fabbing a Zip/HDD ZFP front bezel along the lines of what you're doing to the Classic.
I don't really feel any pressing need to do this hack, shoot me your address in a PM. 
Lemme know whether to keep the the power button section here or leave it on there . . .
. . . if you wanna offload your extra/empty case if this frees it up, that might help reduce your level of MacMisery . . .
. . . ain't nuthin' never gonna make 'em happy 'bout this here hobby, fella. ;D
Lemme know whether to keep the the power button section here or leave it on there . . .
. . . if you wanna offload your extra/empty case if this frees it up, that might help reduce your level of MacMisery . . .
. . . ain't nuthin' never gonna make 'em happy 'bout this here hobby, fella. ;D
