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I can't pick a startup partition!

Huxley

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Hi guys.

So, I'm working on my Mac IIfx, and last night I installed System 7.1 on a third partition (I've got eight 4gb partitions), and the install went just fine. However, when I open the "Startup Disk" control panel, I can't select anything, because it lists ALL partitions (even the blank ones) and they're all "selected" or darkened, and clicking has no effect.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Huxley

EDIT: I should've mentioned - I'm having this issue under System 7.6, and it even happens when I boot with Extensions off.

 
Try reinstalling the control panel. It could be a corrupt.
Hmm, I just gave that a try, but no luck - same results.

Do you think that having a few partitions, all named "Untitled" could be the issue?

Huxley

 
I also partition HDDs into as many as three for use in older Macs and Systems, but I name them either according to purpose or or by size: as Storage or Quantum 350MB, or the like, being careful to have no two volumes with the same name (and size, if that is included in the name). The Startup Disk CP is not particularly smart about distinguishing between potential boot partitions so, even if you are assured that the copy of Startup Disk is not corrupt, you are testing its concentration by presenting it with multiple choices.

1) Not until OS 9 does Startup Disk list in the CP the System Folders, as opposed to available HDD partitions, for startup;

2) earlier Systems display all available volumes in the CP, whether they each have a valid System Folder or not, and highlight all the volumes of a given disk together.

To have some chance that the desired startup volume will be used:

1) if you are simply backing up complete System installations on the same partition or drive, remove Finder from each inactive System Folder into its enclosing Folder;

2) deselect all volumes in the CP by clicking outside them in the CP window, and then click only the volume from which you wish to start up, close the CP, and then restart.

Even then you may need to do some fiddling when you wish to use a different System, and to be prepared for the sheer fag of starting up from the last-used System Folder or disk partition, making a change in the CP, and then restarting from your current choice of System. There are other wrinkles that may be employed, such as:

1) the four-fingered salute (command-option-shift-delete) to get Startup Manager to ignore SCSI 0 and use the next valid SCSI ID up the series, or

2) the five-fingered salute (command-option-shift-delete-number), where 'number' is the SCSI ID of the desired drive (now you know why 'c' to select the CD-ROM drive was such a good idea),

but none of these is guaranteed of success with older Startup Disk CPs, sitting and sucking their thumbs in puzzlement when they are confronted with choices far beyond their designed capacities.

de

 
Well, I tried renaming each drive partition to something unique, but I'm still getting the same result - all mounted partitions are "selected" in the Startup Disk control panel, and I can't make any changes.

One thing I wonder - since each partition is on one drive, which has a single SCSI ID, perhaps that's what's causing the issue. I'm going to dig out an old external SCSI drive (with a different ID) and see if that makes any difference.

Thanks again for the help!

Huxley

 
Ignoring Startup Disk CP for the moment, can you boot at all? That is, reach the desktop with all volumes mounted and the Mac booted into whatever System is on the first partition? Is the lowest-numbered/preferred/only System on the first (visible) partition?

Do I understand you correctly to be saying that you cannot deselect all volumes by clicking within the CP but not on any volume? If this latter is true, you need to reinstall the CP. If you have TomeViewer 1.3d.3 you can extract just that CP from the Install CD and write it directly to System Folder/Control Panels from the relevant Tome on the Install CD.

de

 
Make that OS 9.1 to list folders. They changed it in that version to accommodate OS X. OS 9.0.4 or earlier will give you the traditional Startup Disk panel.

 
Well, I found a work-around - I just installed 7.1 on a SCSI external drive, and it's booting happily from that (along with 7.6 on the internal).

So, now my questions relate to installing RocketWare for my 'new' Radius Rocket (the reason for the whole 7.1-installation project in the first place). When I download RocketWare 1.5 and unstuff it, I end up with 3 folders, "Disk 1" through "Disk 3." However, when I run the "Installer 3.4" app in the Disk 1 folder, it goes through the steps of loading the splash-screen, asking where I'd like to install the software, but when I click "Install", it asks me to insert Disk 1. Since I'm installing from the hard drive, I don't have a disk 1 to insert!

Any ideas? I feel like I'm banging my head against the desk, trying to get this Rocket launched!

Huxley

 
Just for future reference, there's a godly little app out there called "System Picker". All it does is look through all your disks, finding any system folder it can and lets you select one. Once it's selected, it blesses it and reboots the machine. I use it on all my classic Macs and it works beautifully :)

 
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