Help me set up Open Transport on my SE/30

[BadGoldEagle]

Hey there

First of all, I've read the Classic Mac Networking guide. So, I sorta know what I'm supposed to do.

What you need to know:

I have an SE/30 running 7.5.1 with only 8mb of RAM (I plan on buying more of the stuff soon). I do not plan on upgrading it to 7.5.5 as I want to keep the original install as original as possible. Open Transport is supposed to work on 7.1 so 7.5.1 should be good.

The SE/30 is equipped with an Asante MacCon IIsi (the one with the ethernet port).

Let's recap on what's been done.

1/ ... or rather what hasn't been done... I didn't install the Asante ethernet drivers because when I tried to install them, a window popped up telling me that a later driver already existed on my hard drive. I knew 7.5 had build in ethernet drivers so that wasn't surprising at all.

2/ I went on and installed MacTCP 2.0.6

3/ I patched it to version 2.1

4/ Then, I installed OT 1.1 

Technically, that should have been sufficient. But apparently not.

MacTCP is now hidden, so that's good. But when I set the TCP/IP control panel to DHCP, nothing happens. I know it's supposed to show me the IP address and all because I did this on my iMac G3 a year ago and it worked flawlessly. Interestingly enough, before I installed OT, I was able to select Ethernet in the "Network" control panel, and now I can't... I don't think that's normal.

I should probably update OT to version 1.1.2 and then to 1.3 as the guide suggests doing, but even that doesn't work. The net install thing asks me to insert "Install 1", but because this is a net install and not a floppy install, there's no "Install 1" floppy... It seems the installer cannot see the "Install 1" folder... What am I doing wrong?

Any help appreciated... 

 

[Bolle]

Have you set TCP/IP to be always on in the advanced settings? Otherwise it will only pull an IP from your DHCP if you try to open a network connection from an application.

You also might want to check if the physical connection to your router/switch is coming up. Some newer networking gear expects auto-negotiation for speed and duplex to work correctly on the device that is plugged in.

Have you tried the Asante troubleshooting app that installs with the drivers? This one will tell you at least if the link is coming up.

 

[BadGoldEagle]

Thanks for the quick reply!

Yeah, I left it as standard, so the "advanced settings" user mode was the one selected all along.

Here's a couple of pictures of the TCP/IP CP:





And the results from the Asanté Test:



Looks promising. At least something is working. But does it mean the Mac gets an IP address from the router though?

I tried iCab and Netscape, but as expected, it crashes because there's not enough memory...

Edit: I should have checked what was going on on the TCP/IP side when the test was running... But too late, can't do that now.

 

[BadGoldEagle]

Apparently yes, that does mean that DHCP is working. 

Next step I guess is RAM...

 

[dochilli]

My SE/30 did not get an IP automatically. I set the IP and the subnetmask and the Router ip manualy. Then it worked.

 

[BadGoldEagle]

Now that you mention it, I had to go manual on my iMac G4 before it would work 'automatically'...

I'm gonna order the RAM ASAP. It's going to be real expensive!

 

[!Beaker]

Hey there,

I've got a similar problem with an Asanté network card in slot 'B' of my SE/30.

Out of curiosity: Did you finally solve the network issue?

BTW: On the same machine a Dyna SCSI Ethernet adapter works just great.

Now I consider testing OpenTransport, but there is also a chance that the network card is simply bricked.  

   : |

Let's see. - So did you finally succeed?

 

[!Beaker]

Solved it last night:

[1]  Cleaned contacts of the network socket (yeah, collected dirt of more than 2 decades) and checked fuse status (was OK)

[2]  Didn't connect directly with the Gbits Router, but put a 10/100 MBits switch in-between.

[3]  Link Integrety LED seems to be dead and led to incorrect assumptions.

      After reinstalling System 7 network services, I was surprised to be asked for an AppleShare password. - Can't be, as the LED didn't even light-up. But that was a wrong assumption as I could select AppleShares in the Chooser.

Long story short: Don't give-up too early and simply even question a status LED.

Now I intent to meter, if the LED get supplied with a voltage from the board.

In case of a dead LED, I'll solder a replacement in.