Formatting CF hard drive for SE/30

[cmjones01]

Having revived my SE/30 with help from the forum, I've now acquired an ADB keyboard and mouse for it. It boots happily from a floppy. Now I'd like to get a hard drive running.

I have a SanDisk 512MB Compact flash card, a CF-to-PC card adapter, and an Adtron SDDS SCSI-to-PCMCIA adapter.

I put the CF card in a standard USB card reader and partitioned and formatted it HFS using Disk Utility on a Mac OS 10.4 (Tiger) Mac Mini.

Putting the CF card in the PC card adapter, then that in the Adtron SCSI adapter, I can see the HFS partitions on a Linux PC via an Adaptec SCSI card, so I know all the adapters are working.

If I put the Adtron and CF card into my SE/30 and boot from floppy, I can't see the drive in Finder at all. What am I doing wrong? It doesn't appear in an unpatched Apple SC HD setup either. Is there some tool I could use on the SE/30 to see if it's visible on the SCSI bus?

Thanks

Chris

 

[techknight]

your better off booting the machine from floppy, with a copy of Lido and formatting the CF card from the SE/30. 

its entirely likely that Disk Utility is using a disk driver that isnt compatible with the SE/30, ive seen this more times than one. 

 

[cmjones01]

Ah, OK, I'll try that then. I've played around with it a bit more this evening and observed that the activity light on the Adtron adapter blinks when I start Apple HD SC setup, so the SCSI connection is clearly working. I will try and get Lido running when I've got the floppy drive on my Linux PC working again so I can write disk images.

Thanks

Chris

 

[techknight]

Yea you need lido, FWB toolkit, or even patched HD SC 7.3.5 for that CF card. One of those work fine.

The reason why I feel this is important, is because I pulled the HD out of my TAM to put MP3s on them with my IDE adapter plugged into my iBook G4. Soon as I connect it, and do anything at all with the drive, it fails to boot the TAM anymore. 

So what I had to do was copy everything I wanted over to the HDD with the G4, then put it back in the TAM and run the Mac OS 9 disc to fix the drive to allow it to boot again. replace the disk driver. 

 

[jsarchibald]

Interesting, I set up the CF card with the TAM boot disks, then plug it into my MBP if I want software on it.  When I connect it back up to the TAM, it runs like a champ.  Not sure what the issue is on yours Techknight?

 

[Elfen]

I'm guessing that OSX partitioned the CF under HSF+ and not HSF. As I see it (and have done) you would need to get the CF to an older machine (System 8 or less) and repartition it under HSF.

For me, I use a PowerBook 1400 with a CF-PCMCIA adapter to partition the CF with System 7.6.1 or OS 8.0 for HSF. Doing it this way, Apple HD Set up recognizes it and can partition it and format it.

WARNING: If you use a 1400 Powerbook, put your hand a few inches from the port, when you eject, it will go "Ka-POW!" and the CF-PCMCIA Adapter will fly out of the machine! I have only seen this in the 1400c/1400cs Powerbooks and not in any other. Other machines will just pop that card out 1/2 way from the slot and then you can pull it out.

Edit: Before I forget - you can put what system you want on the CF Card and Bless the System Folder. And then go to control panel - Boot options and select the CF Card before putting it on the other machine.

 

[techknight]

Interesting, I set up the CF card with the TAM boot disks, then plug it into my MBP if I want software on it.  When I connect it back up to the TAM, it runs like a champ.  Not sure what the issue is on yours Techknight?

Dont know. 40GB HDD I have in mine, I remove it and plug it into an IDE to USB, into my iBook G4 running Leopard. it screws the drive every time, blinking ? I have to rebless the system folder, and fix the disk driver and everything is fine, it boots again. 

 

[jsarchibald]

Hmmm, interesting.  With mine, I booted from the TAM CD, installed 7.6.1, created 4 partitions, and then went and installed 8.6 and 9.1 on two partitions.  I have a 16GB card, so it was 4GB for each OS and then a storage hard drive.  Works a treat!

When connecting to a newer machine, I use my 2012 MBP and use an adapter for CF to USB, running the current OS.  Hope you get it working soon.

 

[register]

My reply might be slightly off topic with regard to the SE/30, but probably it can be useful as well.

Elfen said:


»WARNING: If you use a 1400 Powerbook, put your hand a few inches from the port, when you eject, it will go "Ka-POW!" and the CF-PCMCIA Adapter will fly out of the machine! I have only seen this in the 1400c/1400cs Powerbooks and not in any other. Other machines will just pop that card out 1/2 way from the slot and then you can pull it out.«
 
 
→ As you might know, you can perfectly boot and run 1400 PowerBook series machines off a flash memory card in one of the PCMCIA slots. Depending to the formatting method and system installation you find such boot drive to be ejected on shutdown each time. If this behaviour is not desired (Why would you desire automatic "Ka-POW!" of the boot drive?), one fix is to perform a clean system installation using a System 8.1 installation CD. In my case this solved the issue. Afterwards you might manually copy any other compatible System Folder to that drive and bless it (i.e. remove the Finder from the old System Folder to unbless it, remove the Finder from the new System Folder as well and move it just back into the new System Folder; you will notice the result in the change of the System Folder icon: the blessed System Folder's icon has a small Finder Icon on the folder symbol, no matter how you named the folder). If someone knows better methods for one or both operations (to set auto eject properties, to bless a System Folder), please share the infomation.