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WPA Supplicant For System 7?

Gorgonops

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So far as I know there isn't even one for OS 9.

Also note that the only wireless cards that work with OS 7 (Lucent Wavelans) can't do WPA even *with* an OS that supports it without running the very latest firmware versions, and even then they only support TKIP. (AKA, WPA1. It's becoming more and more common for APs to only support AES/WPA2.)

 

Gorgonops

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(Note that this was 2002, a year before anything with WPA shipped.)

 
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cb88

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Another possiblity might be adapting cheap serial wifi modles... to work on localtalk. Some of them do WPA2.

Or perhaps an arduino + wifi adapter type thing of course you could do GSM as well. Probably wouldn't make much sense on faster Macs though. That said my Powerbook 190 only pulls about 50Kbps from over B/G with an Orinoco Gold,

 

Paralel

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50 kbps? Something must be wrong. On my PB540c I can pull in over 5Mbps on my Orinoco Gold 802.11b

 

jsarchibald

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I've been meaning to try some powerline adapters I have lying around, and connect to the Ethernet port.  Makes life easy!

 

Elfen

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Every time somebody mentions Ethernet over power line adapters, I can't help to think of Ether Killer!

Question on those power line adapters, what is the limit of distance on those things? I live in a tall apartment building complex, and all the apartments are connected in parallel over the main lines. For me its a network security issue not to have them.

 

ArmorAlley

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Powerline works over circuits, doesn't it? Surely your apartment would have several dedicated circuits radiating from your fusebox or are all circuits building-wide?

 

Elfen

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Nope, ArmorAlley. In a case of a tall building like mine, the main from outside  goes into the building and it divided up into sections of floors and apartment groups.  In my case its 11th to 14th floors, apartments A - G and I'm in one of those apartments. The feed wires run through the common walls and floors in parallel to an individual circuit breaker of an apartment where it is broken up for that apartment and the feed wires continue next apartment and loops back into itself at the last apartment. Its a nightmare of a set up, and whole sections have gone out before.

Thus a Network over power lines would be bad for me to set up if I set it up, another apartment in my group could try the same thing, discover my network and try to hack into it and leech of my service.

 

Gorgonops

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The range of those adapters can be highly variable. They're designed to make it through breaker boxes; if they didn't then they wouldn't be much use in a house built after the 1970's or so, when electrical codes started mandating much lower number of outlets per circuit than they used to get away with; if they stopped at the fuse box they wouldn't even go from room to room. They're supposed to stop when they hit an electric meter, but depending on the meter they can sometimes make it through that, and if they do... they will *probably* be stopped at the transformer, but typically there's more than one customer hanging off a transformer. So, yeah, I certainly wouldn't use them unless they have good encryption. The newer model HomePlug adapters are *about* as secure as WPA Personal (assuming you set a custom password, not just use them straight out fo the box), so if you're comfortable running a WiFi WAP you're not really less safe with the powerline adapters. But with the older standards/proprietary models, well... you could still make the argument that it's substantially harder for a "wardriver" to get into your powerline, so unless you live next door to someone who's both untrustworthy and is also using the same network equipment as you still have "security through obscurity" on your side.

 
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cb88

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@Parallel That should have been 50 KBps = 400kbps.... and that is on average it does go above that depending on how I have it angled toward the router.

 

jamie marchant

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I normally use Windows Internet Connection Sheiring(OS X might have something similar) when I want to get my old Macs on-line. I also have a wird connection at my workbench.(so I don't need a PC when I'm fixing up an old Mac)

 
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Paralel

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@Parallel That should have been 50 KBps = 400kbps.... and that is on average it does go above that depending on how I have it angled toward the router.
That still seems terribly low. What firmware revision is your wifi card?

 
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