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Which version of Quicktime do you use on your 68k?

pee-air

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Which version of Quicktime do you install on your 68k Macintosh computers?

I have been busy setting up my old LC III for general use. System 7.5.3, which I am running on my LC III, comes with an old version of Quicktime by default. I wanted to upgrade Quicktime a bit, but I didn't want to commit Quicktime overkill by giving my little 68030 based LC III more Quicktime than it really needs. So I decided that Quicktime 3.0 would be the version that this Machine runs.

When I get around to setting up my Quadra 700, I think I will run System 7.5.5 on it. So I'm thinking that I'll probably give it Quicktime 4.0. My Quadra 950, if I ever get around to setting it up, will run Mac OS 7.6 and Quicktime 4.0.

Which version of Quicktime do you use on your 68k Macintosh computers and why?

 

LCGuy

LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
The '030s, and the Quadra 700 get QT 2.5. The LC475 has got QT4 and the Classic PowerPCs get QT5. The iMac has QT6.5.

 

tomlee59

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I'm very partial to version 2.5 because it allows full-screen display. Apple later made you pay to get this feature. So if you want to watch glorious Cinepak movies in full-screen on your bad-boy '030, v2.5 is a must-have.

 

LCGuy

LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Indeed...thats the reason i use it...it has a lot of the features available for free that Apple made you pay for in the later versions.

 

Quadraman

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I just wonder how useful old versions of quicktime are anymore. There's probably not a lot of online content that you can still view with them or many downloadables, either.

 

LCGuy

LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Well they're quick on the old 68ks, and they're required for a lot of older games and multimedia apps.

 

The Macster

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I always install the latest version, which is 4.0.3 for 68k Macs and 6.0.3 for PowerPCs (OS 9) - is there any reason why you would use a version lower than the maximum for your Mac? I always assumed it was best to use the newest one as QT seems to be more of a core OS component on the Mac, not just a media player, and it tends to be best to update the OS core as much as possible. I always remove the FireWire extensions and things like that which come with the later versions and aren't needed on older Macs.

 

tomlee59

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I always install the latest version, which is 4.0.3 for 68k Macs and 6.0.3 for PowerPCs (OS 9) - is there any reason why you would use a version lower than the maximum for your Mac? I always assumed it was best to use the newest one as QT seems to be more of a core OS component on the Mac, not just a media player, and it tends to be best to update the OS core as much as possible. I always remove the FireWire extensions and things like that which come with the later versions and aren't needed on older Macs.
Apparently, it's ok to have more than one version installed. On my beige G3, I've got version 2.5 (for full-screen playback of movies, as well as its many transcoding options), and also whatever QT version was installed with OS9.1. They happily coexist, as far as I can tell. I use 2.5 to convert movies into Cinepak (for playback on 68k machines), and MPEG1 (for lower-end PPCs).

Having only, say, 4.0.3 locks you out of many of these options. As I mentioned in my earlier post, Apple *removed* these features from later free versions.

 

Unknown_K

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I use whatever is included with the OS I am using unless the video capture cards need a specific version to work. I think 1.6.2 is the earliest version I have on floppy (original) and I think I use that on my Video Spigot Nubus. Targa 2000 PCI cards need 3.0 or above as an example.

 

Scott Baret

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Well, the 68K I use the most is a Plus so I can't run QuickTime, but on my LC in ages past I ran 1.x.x--it came with Kid Pix Companion.

 

Patrickool93

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Whatever comes installed when I get it. If there is nothing on it I leave nothing on it until I need it, then I install it from the CD of the thing that needs it.

 

alk

Well-known member
It is important to make a distinction between QuickTime and MoviePlayer. You can only ever install ONE version of QuickTime, but you can have as many copies of MoviePlayer/QuickTime Player on your disk as you wish. So if you want to keep full screen playback of QuickTime content, just keep MoviePlayer 2.5 around and install whatever version of QT you want. MoviePlayer uses whatever QuickTime extension is installed to do the decoding, but it isn't crippled like later versions.

Peace,

Drew

 

madmax_2069

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I'm very partial to version 2.5 because it allows full-screen display. Apple later made you pay to get this feature. So if you want to watch glorious Cinepak movies in full-screen on your bad-boy '030, v2.5 is a must-have.
what are those Cinepak movies you speak of. wouldn't any kind of movie playback on a 68k be horrid to do???

 

iMac600

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Videos with Cinepak Compression, basically. 68k's are well capable of video playback, as I learned with my Duo 280c, they just need to be a certain type of compression and resolution for optimal performance.

 

tomlee59

Well-known member
Thanks to JWGdesign, I was reminded of Cinepak movies (there was a thread in the Software forum about this). Cinepak is an old format that was designed for playback on cpu-challenged machines, like those using the 386 and the 68030.

The movies are not high-def by any stretch of the imagination, but they are watchable. And for a 68k, they are the only real option.

There's not much content out there in Cinepak, but about 10 years ago, many movie studios released trailers in this format; you can still find them on various sites that archive that sort of thing. A lot of old game CDROMs have content in Cinepak, too. And of course, you can always make your own.

For fun, I transcoded Star Wars IV and Galaxy Quest into Cinepak (10 frames per second, 320x240), using MoviePlayer 2.5 (thanks, alk, for correctly pointing out the distinction between QT and MP). Sound is glorious mono, created by SoundApp (IMA 4:1, 22kHz, from the original MP2). Each movie took all night on a 300 MHz beige G3, but it was worth it. I can play them back on a 33MHz Performa/LC550. Never would have believed it possible to play watchable movies on an '030.

 
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