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Some European variant? It ships with a FULL Mac Plus keyboard!
Some European variant? It ships with a FULL Mac Plus keyboard!
A 512Ke maybe or an educational model? I am sure there was a 512k model on sale for at least part of the Plus's lifespan. It wouldn't surprise me if the 800k drives from the Plus were used in it since it wouldn't have made sense to keep the 400k drives in production at that time. It also wouldn't have made sense to keep the old keyboard minus the keypad in production, either.http://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=40372#40372
Some European variant? It ships with a FULL Mac Plus keyboard!
Quadraman, the 512Ke did NOT come with a full sized keyboard. Apple likely discontinued the numeric keypad in order to encourage an upgrade to the Plus keyboard. The 512K was discontinued in March '86, so Apple was likely still making 400K external drives until then to encourage accessory purchases. Then again the HD20 init made the 800K external usable so, they probably discontinued it when they introduced the 800K ext. drive (they could charge more too).The 512Ke did come with the 800k drive built in. It would likely have shipped with the full sized keyboard, too. They probably put the 512k/800 designation on the box so the two different models wouldn't be confused on the shelf. You wouldn't want to sell someone the older model with the 400k drive if they paid for the newer one.
The disks are the same as the one in the box:Then there's this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41999914@N00/16287486
Kami, I have no idea what point you are making.
Yes see, that's specious reasoning. The 512Ke as far as I know NEVER shipped with a Plus keyboard. As far as the 512K/800 goes, that seems to be the only difference.Since the ke came out after the Plus, it must have also come with the Plus style keyboard
What I was really asking was what is the difference between the 512K/800 and 512Ke, so sorry for the confusion.The Plus was introduced in Jan. 1986 so there was an almost a 1.5 year overlap hence the 800K drives in the 512ke
I will post a link to the original hi-res photo when I get back home for you later on today.......I will assume it also has the 128k ROMs even though I can't read the chip numbers in those so-tiny-I-could-scream photos. Yes, it has a Plus keyboard. But that's one of the perks for those who lived outside the US at the time.....
If my 512Ke (detailed in Mac128's database) is worth anything as a yardstick, and it was first owned by the U of Western Australia under an Apple/Universities consortium arrangement, the 512Ke was always M0001E (extended), acquiring the extra D for education purposes only when sold into that environment. The full keyboard originally supplied (demonstrated by its dated, non-factory label) was part of the deliberate conception of the 512Ke as the 'Mac Minus' (its Apple code-name) low-end partner to the high-end Mac Plus.If you look at photo DSC_0029 you can see the serial number and the model number M0001D (which is the EDU 512ke). The 512ke was introduced in April 1986 and came with a 800K floppy drive standard (according to Mactracker) and was discontinued in Sept. 1987. The Plus was introduced in Jan. 1986 so there was an almost a 1.5 year overlap hence the 800K drives in the 512ke
I do (probably because I've got one)...and I've never even been to JapanAnyone remember the PowerBook 550c?
equill, I think there was nothing consistent about Apple's thinking in those days as now.If that thinking about suffixes was consistently applied by Apple
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OK here's a link to the original image (it's 4.4mb sorry!)I will post a link to the original hi-res photo when I get back home for you later on today.......I will assume it also has the 128k ROMs even though I can't read the chip numbers in those so-tiny-I-could-scream photos. Yes, it has a Plus keyboard. But that's one of the perks for those who lived outside the US at the time.....
The italic emphasis on "been" implies a disassociation with of the PB550c and Japan. And seeing that you live in the UK seems to imply that you are not alone in owning a PB550c there? Was the PB550c indeed sold widely in Europe?I've never even been to Japan