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Things Mac OS 9 doesn't do that you wish it did.

Tron

Active member
CJ_Miller wrote:

>My MDD and TiBook are last-generation OS 9 machines, and neither of them come close to anything crunchy >enough to handle h264. My MDD 1.42 with GeForce Ti 4600 video could barely handle 1fps of x264! It is just >too processor intensive, and the amount of data probably choke the bus also. To dial down the detail enough >for it to work, we'd lose the benefits. Better off converting it to MJPEG.

>I would say that this one fits under "running on modern machines", at least a G5.

I don't know what's wrong whith your system. But my G4 MDD dual boot, dual 1.42 overclocked to 1.67Mhz and ATI Radeon 9000 PRO, handle 1280x768 H264+AAC mono 22khz at 24-29 fps. in Mac Os 10.4.11.

But I haven't any interest in Mac Os X. Just for hardware testing purporses.

Tested whith this video:

http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/lg-optimus-2x/camera/gsmarena_v002.3gp

Sorry for my bad English.

 

beachycove

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Work like Copland was meant to, carrying forward the 90s technologies like OpenDoc and so on.

Heck, I even want a Knowledge Navigator!

 

Dennis Nedry

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I wish there was a version of OS 9 (or system 7 for that matter) that booted PCs. Maybe it could even be hackintoshed onto new Macs if that were the case!

 

avw

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What I really miss beside the already mentioned points is the possibility to display .odt files

Also missing is a encrypted Jabber client. As well as better File-System support for external media like sticks, HDs etc.

Also nice would be to make Multiprocessors usable for the OS. Shouldn´t it with a dirty hack, be at least possible to use both prozessors for different applications?

Next nice feature would be to use the 1,5 GB to 2GB Ram at least as RAM Disk, if not as RAM itselve.

Nice would also be complete good disk encryption. PGP 7 does a good job, but only up to 2 GB PGPdisks.

And last point I never solved, what do you use as replacement for Skype?

 

PowerPup

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Mac OS 9 apparently did have some multiprocessing ability.

Found this MacTech article that talks about a Multiprocssing_SDK.sit.hqx file.

In honor of the one-year anniversary of the MacTech BeOS issue, and in celebration of my new 2x200 MHz toy, the Challenge this month is going to encourage the use of multiple processors. You will be able to use either BeOS or MacOS. If you choose to use MacOS and wish to take advantage of the second processor on my test system, you should use the SDK found at: ftp://dev.apple.com/devworld/Development_Kits/Multiprocssing_SDK.sit.hqx.

As for reading .odt and .docx files, if someone could find a article on how to make Claris XTND Translators Packages, someone could write up a plugin for Apple/ClarisWorks. :D

 

ClassicHasClass

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I've got that SDK. The problem is that it's only good for those apps that support it.

I've long toyed with putting Classilla's layout on one CPU and the JS on another, but the concept has a lot of potential synchronization problems.

 

classic

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Apple did not have an integrated screensaver until OS X.

I wonder what they would have come up with for OS 9?

Would there have been flying toasters :?:

 

Scott Baret

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Apple did acknowledge After Dark's popularity at least once. There was a package called the Campus Software Set in the mid-90s, which was marketed to college students. Included on those disks was the After Dark Starter Edition, which came with Flying Toasters, Fish, and one or two other modules. There were also day planners, money managers, and the PC Exchange software. I may do a writeup of it sometime for Mac512; these are the types of bundles Apple should market through the Mac App Store.

I thought of another wish for OS 9--Apple-supplied drivers for non-Apple printers (excluding PostScript printers selectable through the LaserWriter driver). It sure would be nice to get my LaserJet 1022 working on OS 9!

 

IIfx

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I wish it had:

Protected Memory

Genuine Multithreading and Multitasking (NOT HACK)

Thats about it

 

avw

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Let me be the troll;

Protected Memory
Really? I think thats Apple propaganda, as everyone has to read that the OS is not afflicted by a application crash for years now. I have some reale stabel OS 8.6 machines that never need reboots at all. OK, PM could be nice but it is not mandatory.

Genuine […] Multitasking
I do not need it. In fact cooperative multitasking has its advantages. For example I will never see such a snappy GUI at any X or Debian or whatever. It drives me crazy to see how fast a OS can react at 1 GHz when I use the Quadcores with Linux, ...I belive cooperativ multitasking is better for desktops and single user computers. Applications like Quicktime, that grab everything and block the entire computer are a pain – that´s true - but this is a application problem and not one of the OS.

 

ClassicHasClass

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In fairness, it is eminently possible for one bad application to stomp all over another one. The OS tries to guard for this (and has some trivial protections such as guarding the red zone), but there really isn't much true protection at all.

That said, as you demonstrate, a well-chosen set of well-behaved apps will run faster and just as well on a real-memory, cooperatively multitasked OS simply because preemptive multitasking and true virtual memory cost cycles. But then, cherry picking always works. }:)

 

IIfx

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. But then, cherry picking always works. }:)
Windows 9x was a nice mixture of everything. Part Protected, part not. Cooperative Multitasking with Multithreading. (Wha?) Sometimes it was rock solid, and then 1 bad app or driver would make the entire thing as stable as 7.5.2

 
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