The Ultimate List of Compact Mac Variations

[Charlieman]

According to a couple of educational price lists (Oct 1990, Feb 1991), the Classic was sold without hard disk.

 

[unity]

Ok. That may be the model difference then in the Classic.

To add to all this confusion, I really could add the TRUE model numbers to some of these but it would get NUTS. The SE has many model numbers, but those are actually bundles - with keyboard, etc. But Apple did call them model numbers. So for this list I am trying to stick to those stamped on the case. This also explains why my Macintosh II has a model number on the case, but a different one in the serial. And thats the other thing, the serials dont always have the model numbers. I am not sure how anyone at Apple kept all this straight, its really a mess when you dig below the surface.

 

[Elfen]

For the Classic I, there were analog board differences (see the CRT thread). Some very early logic boards are slightly different, too.

From what I have seen here vs. what I own, I've seen that there are about 3 Classic IIs. Mine - which has 4 ROMs in sockets (mine is a prototype of sorts as it has EPROMs and Apple Printed labels on the EPROMs but I seen a couple with ROMs in the sockets). and two types with 2 ROMs in sockets. Incidentally, my Classic II does not have speaker holes in the case.

 

[TheWhiteFalcon]

Unity, my SE/30 is an M5119 manufactured in Fremont, not Singapore, in 1989. Socketed CPU as well.

 

[james_w]

As for the one you just acquired, compare the serial on the front with the model number on the back with the regulatory label. They should match. If not then its a regular Macintosh that was upgraded. Official Apple upgrades came with new regulatory labels and badges. But they were not always installed.

Unity - you were completely correct - I'm still learning a lot about the very early Macs. I've only ever seen non-Apple upgraded original Macintoshes. This one must have been an Apple upgrade as it has WP on the label on the back, but the serial ends in just P. The badge remains unchanged but it has the 512k version of the 128/512k board.

My other M0001P has nothing changed on the outside, just the non-Apple memory upgrade. I also have a spare original logicboard with an unofficial 512k upgrade too.

 

[Mac128]

I could be wrong. I just have never seen a model like M0001EP or M0001AP, etc. I could put them into the list proper, but that would add a few lines for sure! 

Have you checked out this site?:

http://earlymacintosh.org

 

[unity]

Ya, but I am just making a list of models. Im not interested in motherboard variations, etc.

 

[gsteemso]

From what I have seen here vs. what I own, I've seen that there are about 3 Classic IIs. Mine - which has 4 ROMs in sockets (mine is a prototype of sorts as it has EPROMs and Apple Printed labels on the EPROMs but I seen a couple with ROMs in the sockets). and two types with 2 ROMs in sockets. Incidentally, my Classic II does not have speaker holes in the case.

The one I unfortunately killed during recapping had the 4 EPROMs. The one I bought to replace it has the 4 regular ROMs. I didn’t have them side by side, but as far as I can tell the boards are otherwise identical, mystery ROM size jumper and all.

 

[Mac128]

Ya, but I am just making a list of models. Im not interested in motherboard variations, etc.

Are you replying to me? I'm not talking about motherboards ... you say there are no M0001APs yet there are ... 

This is worth a read if you haven't previously seen it:

https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/13990-those-more-rare-compact-variants/

 

[unity]

Can you show me a case with a serial/model that says M0001AP? I have yet to see one.

 

[Mac128]

e-mail Eric Rasmussen on his site. There's nothing on that site he hasn't personally confirmed himself. From your initial list you are not accounting for the 240V Plus. This is it.

 

[unity]

Okay, I will dig into it a bit. I emailed him. I certainly could have missed that model variation in my searches. With so many regulatory tags its hard to tell.

 

[macman142]

I've had a couple of M0001AP's, they are Mac Pluses with 240v PSU's. I can take a photo if you would like?

Also, there is a Macintosh Classic with a different model number which has no hard drive installed as standard. I have one of those too and can take a photo if needed. I can't remember off the top of my head the model number but it is different again.

 

[unity]

That would be great. As long as they are model number on the units themselves and not variations on them. Like the IIcx is M5650 but the model in the serial is M5658 because the hard drive was ordered larger, etc.

 

[macman142]

As I said, I've got a couple of Mac Pluses with the model number M0001AP. For interests sake, I also have a couple with the model number M0001A, yet they all have 240v PSU's (which as we all know the "P" designates the international power supply). Another interesting point, the M0001AP's obviously have their model number on the back label, but also on a second label as the end part of the serial number. My M0001A's don't have the model number in the serial number. Don't know what this means or if it's of any significance. Anyway, evidence of the M0001AP regardless.

The Classic without the hard drive (I've always assumed these to be an educational/school version) is M0420. My hard-drive'd ones are all M1420's. I've got a few M0420 Classics and none have hard drives, all have a SCSI terminator (?) plugged into the logic board SCSI socket, looking pretty factory.

Pics below.

 

[unity]

Perfect! I did have M0420 in the list at one point, but could not find a visual example of one for sure. So this helps a bunch!

 

[MinerAl]

Funny

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-APPLE-Macintosh-Classic-Model-MO420-Computer-With-keyboard-mouse-1991-/251961675256

 

[macman142]

Does anyone have any photographic evidence of the existence of this one: M0001D Macintosh 512ke (platinum color, original style face, no stamping on front)

I can't say I have ever seen an 'original style face' in Platinum. I've certainly seen M0001D's and certainly seen 512k's in Platinum but never with the earlier style bezel, only ever with the Plus-style bezel and the earlier style bucket (rear).

 

[macman142]

I think I can already answer this question BUT here goes.

In my collection I have a Colour Classic and a Color Classic. As far as I know, same model numbers too but I will double check. I don't know if you'd want to include this variation or leave it off (especially if they share the same model number).

And the Classic has a variation with and without speaker holes - again I will confirm if they share the same model number as I have both in my collection too.

 

[unity]

Only in rumor and conjecture does an original face-plate design exist in platinum. Same for the original keyboard (without numeric pad). That is not to say they do not exist, just not confirmed in any way at all. And with all the yellowing of the plastics, its hard to tell if one has one in the first place.

The name change on the Color Classics is just that, a name change. Hence that little part can come out too and be swapped. But same model number.

And same for the holes. Same model number, just a case update.