The Ultimate List of Compact Mac Variations

[unity]

I am working on as complete of list as possible for compact Macs and their many variations. With small notes. There have been some posted here and there, but nothing very comprehensive and in one location. Once close to being done, I would like to upload to the 68kMLA Wiki.

I am sure some dont care about all the subtle (or major) differences, thats fine, you don't have to comment. This is really geared toward collectors who want to know what they may have and rule out the over-excesive use of "rare". Some models may seem rare but in reality are plentiful in other countries. Other times it may in fact be rare. In short the list is to educate and inspire those to collect.

I think its best to keep speculation out to avoid Macs of lore. That is models that are commonly accepted as existing yet not one has been seem. From the SE up I think the line-up is fairly well established. But with the 512ks and Pluses there are many variations that even vary from country to county for the same machine.

Ideal for the oddities we can back up the model with pics. For example I had no clue a dual floppy SE existed. Not the 800k version which are plenty, the SuperDrive version. But its right in Apple's own sales info and I eventually found a pic. But on the other side of things, I know there are SEs with 40Mb hard drives and 2MB of RAM - yet I am having a hard time finding a pic of the rear label that would indicate so. For a while some said the "SE 1/20" or "SE 1/40" did not exist, they claimed it was just another name to call them. In fact images can be found where they are stamped as such on the front case.

So I think it would be a little fun for some to hunt down these variations and dig up the lesser knowns.

Here is the list I built so far. I am certain there are errors. And there is information missing. The D and ED models are a bit confusing. The concept is to list each model as it could be purchased. It does not include prototypes, upgrade kits, dealer upgrades, etc.

Master list of Macintosh Variations - Production models only - not in release order

M0001 Macintosh (FCC Label 1 / metal badge reads "Macintosh" on the rear bucket)

M0001 Macintosh (FCC Label 2 / metal badge reads "Macintosh" on the rear bucket)

M0001 Macintosh 128k (metal badge reads "Macintosh 128k" on the rear bucket, original 128 board) *** Needs verification of board used

M0001 Macintosh 128k (metal badge reads "Macintosh 128k" on the rear bucket, hybrid 128/512 board) 

M0001W Macintosh 512k (hybrid 128/512 board)

M0001W Macintosh 512k (exclusive 512 board) *** Needs verification of board used

---- above will have "P" at the end of the serial to denote 240v configuration

---- transition to 800k floppy with updated "Plus" ROMs and native HD20 boot support

M0001E Macintosh 512ke (beige color)

M0001D Macintosh 512ke (platinum color, original style face, no stamping on front) *** Is this really education market or simply the Euro model for the 512ke with 800k drive?

M0001E Macintosh 512ke (platinum color, Plus style face) *** Needs verification

M0001ED Macintosh 512ke (platinum color, Plus style face, stamped "Macintosh ED" on front, updated read bucket with serial label location added to bottom, education market)

---- introduction of SCSI interface

M0001A Macintosh Plus 1MB (beige, "Macintosh Plus 1Mb" on back label)

M0001A Macintosh Plus 2Mb or 4Mb (platinum, "Macintosh Plus" on back label, no RAM designation)

M0001A Macintosh Plus ED (beige, stamped "Macintosh Plus ED on face, education market)

M0001A Macintosh Plus ED (platinum, stamped "Macintosh Plus ED on face, education market)

M5880 Macintosh Plus (platinum, Singapore manufature)

---- all the following cases came in platinum color

---- transition to ADB - Apple Desktop Bus for input devices

M5010 Macintosh SE (dual 800k floppy, 1MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE" on face, configuration on back label)

M5011 Macintosh SE (800k floppy, 20MB HD, 1MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE" on face, configuration on back label)

M5011 Macintosh SE (800k floppy, 40MB HD, 2MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE" on face, configuration on back label)

---- transition to 1.4MB floppy drives with updated ROMs and IWM controller

M5011 Macintosh SE FDHD (dual 1.4MB floppies, 1MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE FDHD" on face, no configuration on back label)

M5011 Macintosh SE FDHD (20MB HD, 1MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE FDHD" on face, no configuration on back label)

M5011 Macintosh SE FDHD (40MB HD, 2MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE FDHD" on face, no configuration on back label)

M5011 Macintosh SE Superdrive (dual 1.4MB floppies, 1MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE Superdrive" on face, essentially a rename of the FDHD)

M5011 Macintosh SE Superdrive (20MB HD, 1MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE Superdrive" on face, essentially a rename of the FDHD)

M5011 Macintosh SE Superdrive (40MB HD, 2MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE Superdrive" on face, essentially a rename of the FDHD)

M5011 Macintosh SE (40MB HD, 2MB RAM, stamped "Macintosh SE" on face, no configuration on back label) *** While it does not look it, it may be an replaced faceplate.

M5011 Macintosh SE 1/20 (euro markets, stamped "Macintosh SE 1/20" on face, 1MB RAM, 20MB HD)

M5011 Macintosh SE 1/40 (euro markets, stamped "Macintosh SE 1/40" on face, 1MB RAM, 40MB HD)

M5119 Macintosh SE/30 (early versions have socketed motherboards) *** Verify model number, suspect Singapore manufacture

M5392* Macintosh SE/30 (1MB RAM, no HD)

M5390* Macintosh SE/30 (1MB RAM, 40MB HD)

M5361* Macintosh SE/30 (4MB RAM, 80MB HD)

---- * M5119 seems to be the CPU model number for all, other model numbers are probably bundles (keyboards). This can be corrected.

M1420 Macintosh Classic

M1420 Macintosh Classic ED ????

M4150 Macintosh Classic II (no speaker holes)

M4150 Macintosh Classic II (speaker holes)

M4150 Performa 200

--- all the following have color CRTs

M1600 Performa 250 (same as Color Classic)

M1600 Performa 275 (same as Color Classic II)

M1600 Macintosh Color Classic 

M1600 Macintosh Color Classic II (not sold in U.S.)

 

[falen5]

that's more than I have in my collection unity! - haha

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allot are variations of the same model I know...but man there allot of them

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No macintosh Portable.........its the same color!! and about as powerful of the others hahaha

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I will be taking down all my macs in next few weeks (hard drive failure fiasco) and I know I have some strange models, including what seem to be 3 prototypes. They all came from I haul I got from a guy in cork, where apple built a plant in the mid 80's............I might find some of the pictures you are looking for.

 

[Elfen]

I believe that the Platinum 512Ke and Plus came about after time as the SE, probably because they run out of one plastic and used the other.

Funny, the board CumpuNerd sold me to fix my SE\30 is a socketed board, while the board it is replacing is not socketed. It does have an 80Meg Drive. The older SE & SE\30s (No HD I think) had a Hamster cage fan while the newer ones have that typical PC Fan.

The older SEs also had either a Resistor one had to cut/solder for various memory configurations while the newer ones had a jumper. Here's some SE webpages which covers this and other things about the SE.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/Inside-the-Macintosh-SE/1724

http://www.ccadams.org/se/ram.html

 

[360alaska]

I believe that the Platinum 512Ke and Plus came about after time as the SE, probably because they run out of one plastic and used the other.

Funny, the board CumpuNerd sold me to fix my SE\30 is a socketed board, while the board it is replacing is not socketed. It does have an 80Meg Drive. The older SE & SE\30s (No HD I think) had a Hamster cage fan while the newer ones have that typical PC Fan.

The older SEs also had either a Resistor one had to cut/solder for various memory configurations while the newer ones had a jumper. Here's some SE webpages which covers this and other things about the SE.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/Inside-the-Macintosh-SE/1724

http://www.ccadams.org/se/ram.html

There's also some that come with a small board that adds the jumper...

 

[Elfen]

On the Mac Plus, I find something odd.

The Plus was introduced in '86 but got the silver/grey case in '87 but the Plus was in production for 5 years. So according to this, there should be more sliver/grey Pluses out there. But from what I seen, there are more Yellow/Beige Pluses.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Inside-the-Macintosh-Plus/1698/1

http://www.jagshouse.com/macplus.html

Like the older SE, you needed to cut a resistor ( R8 ) to access more than 256K RAM on the Plus

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Inside-the-Macintosh-Plus/1698/4

 

[Elfen]

There's also some that come with a small board that adds the jumper...

I've seen that too, but have not been able to find a link for it.

 

[360alaska]

Found a Pic:

 

[james_w]

Unity this is awesome!

Don't forget M0001P - the same as M0001 but with the 220-240v power supply. I have one sat here if you need verification

I've also just acquired from eBay a M0001WP which I thought would have a "Macintosh 512k" badge on the back but has the original "Macintosh" badge. I can't quite tell from your list if you've included that as well?

 

[unity]

360 - I think I have only one board, in my TEMPEST, that has that tiny jumper board on the SE.

Elfen - I think there are more platinum Pluses out there than most think. if you looked at my pile, maybe one looks like a platinum but the rest look beige. Only looking at the serial label reveals there are two more. So I think the yellowing seems to skew the counts. I could be wrong, but thats my guess. I too thought (due to lore apparently) that the Platinums were harder to find. As for the squirrel cage fans, machines with those are not too common. I have a two I think, maybe more since I dont look at the fans to closely. They were so loud that Apple had a replacement program for them. Which I think is why they are less common - shorter production time, "recall" of sorts. But  dont think any SE/30 came with one unless the power supply was replaced with one. I guess in a way, for the hardcore collectors, I should add a note about the fan. It was a version I myself looked for after all.

James - I made note of the "P" for 220-240v supplies below the 128k/512k models above in the list. As far as I know, once the "e" of the 512k came out they did not use the "P" to denote power supplies anymore. I could be wrong. I just have never seen a model like M0001EP or M0001AP, etc. I could put them into the list proper, but that would add a few lines for sure! As for the one you just acquired, compare the serial on the front with the model number on the back with the regulatory label. They should match. If not then its a regular Macintosh that was upgraded. Official Apple upgrades came with new regulatory labels and badges. But they were not always installed.

 

[CC_333]

Yeah, I actually have an early SE that used to have the squirrel-cage fan, but I removed it and installed the later-type box fan (I still have the old one, though). For authenticity, I guess I could put it back? I also kept the old type CRT board (the one that went with the squirrel-cage equipped SEs), so I could put it back to a stock configuration if I wanted to.

And, ever notice that some SE/30s have black switches and power cord sockets, while others have platinum ones? I suspect either one of two things are at work here: 1) early SE/30s might have the black switch and port, and later ones have platinum, or 2) SE/30s with black switches and ports have had their power supply and/or analog board replaced by one from an SE. What do you think? I think 2 is more plausible, but who knows?

c

 

[james_w]

Unity - ah cool, you're referring to all those listed above, makes sense

I'll check the serials when my 512k arrives

 

[MinerAl]

I've made a dual SE FDHD, but I didn't realize Apple ever sold one!

 

[Elfen]

Yeah, I actually have an early SE that used to have the squirrel-cage fan, but I removed it and installed the later-type box fan (I still have the old one, though). For authenticity, I guess I could put it back? I also kept the old type CRT board (the one that went with the squirrel-cage equipped SEs), so I could put it back to a stock configuration if I wanted to.

And, ever notice that some SE/30s have black switches and power cord sockets, while others have platinum ones? I suspect either one of two things are at work here: 1) early SE/30s might have the black switch and port, and later ones have platinum, or 2) SE/30s with black switches and ports have had their power supply and/or analog board replaced by one from an SE. What do you think? I think 2 is more plausible, but who knows?

c

As for the PSU - it's 1, as some SEs have the later black switches too.

As for that hamster cage cooling fan, if you put it back, clean and lube it up first. A lot of dirt builds up inside. I think there was a chapter on this in one of Larry Pina's SE and SE\30 upgrade and repair secrets.

 

[unity]

For MinerAl - I was surprised too. Granted its easy to make one really, so the pic here could have had that done. But its what it looks like. I think the oddest thing I learned from this would be the SE/30 having a model sold with no hard drive.

 

[360alaska]

Yeah, I actually have an early SE that used to have the squirrel-cage fan, but I removed it and installed the later-type box fan (I still have the old one, though). For authenticity, I guess I could put it back? I also kept the old type CRT board (the one that went with the squirrel-cage equipped SEs), so I could put it back to a stock configuration if I wanted to.

And, ever notice that some SE/30s have black switches and power cord sockets, while others have platinum ones? I suspect either one of two things are at work here: 1) early SE/30s might have the black switch and port, and later ones have platinum, or 2) SE/30s with black switches and ports have had their power supply and/or analog board replaced by one from an SE. What do you think? I think 2 is more plausible, but who knows?

c

Did you know that SE's actually had 3 separate makers of the power supply, ASTEC,Sony, and Apple?

 

[CC_333]

Yes, I did.

Were there switch/port color differences between them? I should take a look....

c

 

[jsarchibald]

There were two 512K EDs for 220V countries that had no silk screening, one in beige and one in platinum.

 

[Scott Baret]

For the Classic I, there were analog board differences (see the CRT thread). Some very early logic boards are slightly different, too.

Some had a sticker on the back and some had the label etched on the rear bucket. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why this happens.

Singapore and Ireland were the countries of manufacture.

 

[unity]

I have a Classis with said label. Since it was a shipment wreck, I will pull the label off and see whats under. Were the analog differences a big deal? I dont think they list needs to go into too far of detail that way unless significant for some reason. I mean so many CRTs brands where used, chip brands, etc. But if there is a reason, it should go on the list.

edit: I removed the label. Seems to be an international type cast-in label. FCC with english is pretty much last in the list.

Also I just noticed the Classics have tow model numbers, M0420 and M1420. I really had no looked into them yet.