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Schmeaux's present stuff and future conquests...

Schmoburger

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So, I just decided to consolidate my various stuff and things into a single thread on another forum yesterday so figured I may as well do the same here. Some of the stuff here you will have already seen threads about, other stuff probably not.

But yeh, I'll just add things to here as I procure them/dig them out of corners that I have stuffed them into I guess.

Firstly, My daily driven late-2005 2.0 dual-core  G5 and formerly daily driven G4 Yikes... The G5 is mostly stock except for extra HDD and RAM. The G4 is far from standard... Sonnet Encore 500MHz CPU, maxed at 1Gb of RAM, 2x40Gb HDD's, DVD-RW, ATI R7000 64Mb graphics card, extra firewire and USB. In the bottom pic you will notice the old 2.0DP G5 hiding... logic board issues keep it turned off most of the time.








 

 
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Schmoburger

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And here are my pair of iMacs that were painstakingly rebuilt... Graphite is possibly up for round two surgery shortly due to some recurring issues. The build process was covered start to finish in my blog for the graphite one, should this be a thing that interests you.  Oh... and my faithful blue G3 is also hiding in the background.









The Snow is basically maxxed out with 1Gb RAM and has an 80Gb HDD and DVD-ROM drive installed (was originally a CD-ROM model from the public education sector).

 

Schmoburger

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My mint SE Superdrive... bought 10 years ago at a recovery center shop for $20.







My first Mac Plus, purchased at a school sale in the 7th grade, circa 2000. partial recap in 2002 but needs full recap I reckon seeing as though the filter caps are gone anyway.




My trio of Pluses and my 512K in the wild... 512K needs a RAM chip replaced, all Pluses need filter caps replaced. The platiunum Plus and the second beige one were bought for in 2002 for $50 with the platinum being mint and the beige only requiring a FDD, and the platinum was complete with 3.5 drive, peripherals and software in a monographed carry bag.



 

 

Schmoburger

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And this is my haggard socketted SE/30... had it for about 13 years and definitiely a lot of work in getting this up to scratch again... As you can see from the pics it had a terrible life before it came to be in my hands.












 

This is far, far far from being the lot of it, so watch this space...

 

Schmoburger

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The 30? Yep... it's had a very hard life the poor thing. A recap should fix the electronic side of things but the case will be an interesting excercise to get fixed to an acceptable standard. Ideally I would prefer to get another case, but I wont hold my breath for one either.

 

Schmoburger

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Well I have another confirmed runner to add to this thread... the IIvx I scored as part of my Canberra haul finally got plugged in and fired straight up with a clean install of 7.5.3 already onboard. Everything works great except a sticky eject mechanism on the floppy. Very clean machine though... the benefits of buying from collectors. :)



This is the one pic i managed to painfully retreive from Photobucket before my G4's Tiger install got too flakey and what should have been a routine re-install went pearshaped in a big way this morning... given that photobucket is now bloaty and full of crap crap, none of the browsers I have in Panther will load it correctly, so the interior shots will have to come after I unhitch the IIvx and give the G5 it's monitor back. :) But anyway, I've been running the IIvx all morning and it works perfectly. Have spent this morning re-aquainting myself with System 7.5 and cranking some choice 90's CD albums from that gloriously large internal speaker. :) This is the 2nd IIvx I now own... the condition of the other is unknown at present as it has sat for some time in the cave :-/ They are a great little machine anyway... Fast, expandable, well-built and small. I intend to get a NuBus ethernet card at some point and get this little beauty on the internet for novelties sake. :)

 
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Schmoburger

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Now the G5 has a head again... those underlid shots. This thing is spotlessly clean inside!





Next one to test will be the IIsi... allegedly has PSU issues. As for the 9600, no luck getting it running thus far but I havent given up.

 

Schmoburger

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So  I went to the tip finally to dump my old stripped and unwanted iMac and eMac carcasses and at the bottom of one of the e-waste bins, I happened to find none other than an Apple Colour display (the pizzabox footprint ones that can me used footless), an ADK, ADB Mouse II and a 6300. It just so happens that I am in shortish supply of Mac monitors at the moment (more to the point the ones i have are a nightmare to get to), so I went to ask fully expecting a "nope, can't take it out sorry" only to find that a guy I am casually aquainted with was working and was more than happy to rescue it, which is something I havent been use to having happen for some years when it comes to e-waste or metal items at dumps... So $5 later I have another monitor and keyboard/mouse. :)



I probably could have had the actual machine as well but in all honesty I was only interested in these items... I really don't care for 6xxx-series machines a whole lot and i already have a number of them, and as you can see the units are a bit yellow, so the computer is hardly a standout and  it's unlikely anybody else would even want it. That being said I am still kinda contemplating going back for it if I can, just for parts and maybe also considering leaving my number with the bloke to give me a text if any Mac stuff rolls through. :)

I love it when I get junk Macs in exchange for good ones! :D

 

Schmoburger

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So, having also bought a new set of 7" long torx bits and a long T-handle after my normal rather too short bit and driver walked away, I decided to take apart my rather nice Classic and remove the battery, inspect the caps and give it a thorough dust out, after which I put it back together and gave it a well-overdue spongebath to remove all the dust and such from years in storage... meaning it is now presentable enough for a photo shoot. :)



Next job is to clean up the first Classic I owned (have had it for about 15 years now)  and suss out what has gone byebyes on the analogue board and anywhere else, as it hasnt worked in probably 6-7 years at least. If it is salvagable, possible recap candidate, if not, it can go back into a dark safe place until i find replacement boards. :)

PS: How good is the original monochrome Moire screensaver! :D

 
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Schmoburger

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Update on the second Classic... took it apart yesterday after my last post, and glaringly obvious are what look to be the two filter caps busted open, which would have explained at least partly the screen interference years back... so analogue board definitely needs to be coming out for further inspection and some work (probably a full reccap) before it is put back into service. As for the logic board, it appears to have a fair degree of corrosion around and abouts... It appears C8 has leaked goo and pretty badly eaten the legs of a tiny IC next to it. There is also a fair amount of corrosion around the VIA and sound chips which I cannot 100% for certain deduce the origin of... possibly C1 or C2 , but also possibly moisture from an external source? RC2 and UB7 also have surface corrosion on the legs, however the immediate area around C3 and C4 do not show signs of bad localised corrosion as if electrolyte had sat there.

This board may be salvagable if I can find somebody able to solder the IC's assuming they arent rotted out, but it is definitely not going to be functioning in this state. In the meantime I shall check my stash and see if I have any other servicable boards. As I have owned this Mac longer than almost any I still own, and it has come with me to 5 different houses in 15 years, I'd love to get it going again.

 

Schmoburger

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Man, this thing is a godsend... for the past 15 years Ive been using a small multi-bit driver with a handle just narrow enough to slide down the sides of a compact handle... except for Classics which are ever so slightly different in that area so I had to dodgy my way round them with a flathead precision driver and pliers. Was still a PITA even though it worked. With this new set of tooling I can have the hhing apart in a minute and a half. :D

 

Schmoburger

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Welp, can't sleep tonight as you can probably tell, and do not have to work until the evening, so I decided to stop procrastinating and remove the 2.0DP from my office as it was taking up legroom under the desk.... and now it looks like this.



I've been of two minds as to what I would do with this machine for a while after it became unreliable  I had intended to stuff it in a corner for another day, but whilst I had the case cracked open I decided to barebones it so I can scavenge a part if needed without having to dig the machine out. as it stands I may need to use the DVD-RW in my DC as it sounds pretty sick and is starting to burn errors at speeds above 20x, and I may also extend the fan wiring by a couple of inches and replace the noisy front PCI fan in the 2.0DC with his nice quiet one.

As for the rest of the machine, it's fate is as yet undecided... Part of me says there is no reason to not attempt a reflow, because realistically its a free fix if it works. But that being said, the effort to remove the board and CPU's, and reassemble again, all hopefully without breaking anything, is a pretty substantial. And the reality is simply that these dual-CPU PCI-X G5's are rubbish... the failure rates when still brand new and under warranty were appalling, and encompassed most major components. Logic boards, CPU's, PSU... you name it, chances are it was gonna break. Even if I do get it to play nice again, chances are it's to be considered borrowed time as pre-PCIe dual-processor G5's just suck. I really don't know if its worth the time or effort.

 

TheWhiteFalcon

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They're so pretty though, I personally think the 2003 DP models are the most attractive computer interior ever made. I wish I still had my 1.8.

 

Schmoburger

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They're so pretty though, I personally think the 2003 DP models are the most attractive computer interior ever made. I wish I still had my 1.8.
That is one thing I will definitely agree on... beautiful from an aesthetic perspective, and the way the come apart and go together is for the most part, ingenious... a statement that is true for all G5's. .And the way the semi-sealed thermal zones and fan layout are designed is an absolute work of art in it's own right. It's just a shame that they were let down by substandard components and materials in some machines. The DP looks much more impressive than the DC, but the DC is a whole lot faster and basically rock-solid.

For what it's worth I reckon that had the environmental nandy-pandies not gotten their noses out of joint about leaded solder flux in mass-produced electronics and called for the mandated use of inferior but supposedly cleaner alternatives without lead, then the G5's story would have been a different one for that alone. Unfortunately though looking at most of that era of Mac, the capacitors in particular they used seemed to be of a very poor grade also. An eMac or iMac G5 would blow caps in 2 years that in a Classic or Plus  for instance would take 20 years. And the stupid amounts of heat that early G5 chips produced even with 500 fans running was never going to do any favours for the life-expectancy of crap solder and cheap componentry. :(

 

Schmoburger

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So last night, I pulled the logic board board back out of the SE/30 to have a closer look for damage and ascertain it's general condition prior to sending it for a recap. I beleive the degradation it suffered can be put down to a leaking C6 cap rotting a couple of feet on the ASC at UE10. Aside from that however, the board appears in remarkably good condition given the appalling state of the machine in other respects... ie the fact it looks like it was dropped from a Hercules. Assuming the chip at UE10 isnt rotted out underneath then hopefully this board should be an easy enough fix at the hands of somebody competent who can re-establish the connections from the chip. The AB caps actually look remarkably good, so that should be a simple matter of RnR. :)

Also, just because I unburied it, I figured I would grab a shot or two of the fabled G3.5...





Don't be fooled by the haggard appearance... It looks like garbage as it was rescued after becoming basically that. This machine has some history with me, hence why I took it the moment it was offered my way.

It started life at my high school in 1999 as a 350Mhz Rev.1 used as a student fileserver, being one of two blue G3's my school had for that purpose. In that capacity it served for some years until being replaced by a PC in around 2003. Not long after that, it was decided that we needed a far better computer for editing video etc on than the iMac DV we had been using (I had my finger in all aspects of the tech side back then as a student). Upon exploring our options, and seeing what sort of budget the school had to play with, we decided that our best bang for buck would be a full upgrade of the G3 we now had at our disposal just sitting around.

So after getting the go ahead from the teacher in charge of that side of things, we set about creating a monster... We ordered 1Gb of RAM, a Sonnet Encore G4 500Mhz ZIF upgrade, an R7000 32Mb Mac Edition, a Pioneer dual-format DVD burner, a 120Gb 7200rpm HDD, a PCI firewire and USB 2.0 card, and a bunch of great software including a brand sankers retail copy of Panther. :) When the items arrived, we set to work  turning the doorstop into a ripper machine again. Unfortunately it was at that point that we discovered the corruption issues suffered by Rev.1 B+W towers when most large aftermarket drives are fitted to the stock IDE bus. We temporarily hooked the drive up to the ZIP connector which worked ok and it ended up staying that way until the drive failed due to heat... lesson learned. Replacement drive and a PCI ATA card fixed that issue, but there were also stability issues all the time... it simply would not stay cool doing long hard rendering tasks, which I put down to the higher clock CPU , the pair of hard drives and extra heat generated by the R7000. We ended up just having the case cracked and blowing a pedestal fan through it during high load operations and that ungracefully solved our stability issues most of the time. After that however, it began to eat RAM... possibly a bad batch but in any case it was another pain in the ass. At that point, some more money had been made available to our cause, and a 1GHz eMac fitted into the budget by a whisker, so we cut out losses, and the G3.5 as it had become known, basically became a glorified toy that played our various Mac games wicked fast but otherwise a shining statement of complete and utter failure. It remained there gathering dust, mocking us until I finished high school.... but nonetheless I liked it. It was a cool machine in principal, and realistically mine ran in the same configuration for years. I just figured the Rev.1 logic board was flakier than I gave credit for or this machine was just a dud. That said, i found out from a fellow student and friend  who came to work as an IT guy at the school after we graduated that apparently some monkey had unbeknownst to us had the heatsink off, smudged the goop off the CPU and that was what caused the overheating all along. By that time the machine was showing its age however and the school had all but stopped videoing anything after the performing arts side of things fell by the wayside.

Well, fast forward some years  and my younger brother in his second attempt at 11th and 12 grade happened upon it again in a pile headed to the dumpster and rescued it in a poor state as you see it here. He tried fruitlessly to get it running, and eventually he stripped it all apart intending to build a PC into the case... fortunately this never happened due to the inability to find a suitable motherboard, and instead the machine sat until a couple of years ago when I took the haggard thing off his hands completely dismantled, knowing it had the Sonnet that I could use in my Yikes.

After some time, I was convinced I could get it booted with the usual G3 witchcraft, so set about piecing it back together, using Whatever PC screws I had in my box-o-screws to get it all back intact... hence the funny looking screws holding down the logic board... and a various assortment of other parts I had around to fill the gaps. eMac DVD burner, stock 350Mhz CPU out of my Yikes, whatever RAM i had floating round my bench, the old 10Gb HDD from my Yikes and whatever else I needed I found about the place. After a lot of percerverance as I expected (because it's a B+W), I got it to boot up and work perfectly, even overclocked the stock Yikes chip to 400Mhz. :D

Unfortunately I have slightly less PCI video cards than I have PCI Mac towers so it is a gnome at present, but I endeavour to find another R7000 for my other G3 and then this one can have it's graphics card back, and will probably be a candidate for a crystal side mod with paintstripped G4 side plastics and handles . :)

Oh and as an aside... the IIvx decided to die out of the blue yesterday, so now I am about to pull it down and see what da heeell is going on in there.

 

Schmoburger

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Had a small success just now in that I got one of my pair of non-functioning CC's to power on. After giving the various  I/C pins a clean up on the IIvx board got that machine booting and running flawlesslyagain the other day, I decided to give the less pretty of the two CC's the same treatment with a stiff brush and then got me some ignition again, albeit with no bong so I dare say this board does still need some cap work. This CC already had a failed HDD years back so this flashing floppy type activity doesnt concern me overly...



This makes me happy anyway. If you are wondering about the grubby mess of pencil and stickers, this machine belonged to my younger sister about 15 years ago until the HDD died about 5 years later. By young I mean, I was only 13 myself when this was given to her.

Now to give the board a clean up on the other one and see if I can get sucksqueezebangblow out of it. :)

 

Schmoburger

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Tonight is just getting better! :D



Stiff brush across all the IC legs and CC #2 which I got from the original owner around 12 years ago now boots up again complete with a healthy chime. Definitely seems to have evidence of caps gone leakies in the past however so this one will be going at the very top of the recap pile with my SE/30 board.

It turns out I removed the HDD from the other one entirely hence the lack of activity, and this one spins up and then dies again which seems to be a common mode of failure for this era of Quantum drive. Unfortunately I havent any 7.x boot floppies at present (gotta make some new ones now the 9600 is on the web) but I am confident that it will boot up fine. :)

One thing I notice about this machine however is it has a shadow in the top left corner as though suffering magnetic interference, however there is no real source of the above present and the other CC set up in the same position does not do it. Any ideas?

 
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