Problems reviving a 9600.

[Lateralus]

The original CPU is long gone. I also don't have the original hard drive and in fact don't have one installed at the moment. And I'm using the stock Apple SCSI CD-ROM.

Hadn't thought to try blind booting from a disc yet though. May have to try that tomorrow.

And I've been through more video cards than I could ever count, and I don't recall ever seeing one that requires the OS to load an extension/driver before giving even a low-res signal. Don't have the original video card, either. But if I had another running machine that would allow me to install OS 9 and the Radeon driver/extension on a drive, I'd definitely give it a shot.

I threw out so much Mac stuff last year, thinking I wouldn't even need any of it again. Drats.

SCSI disk mode isn't a bad idea either. But unfortunately there seems to be a sickness that has taken out both my 3400 and 9600.

I'm still just boggled as to why the system now gives me a video signal, but only for a second after powering on.

And the PRAM zap keyboard command still wont take, either.

 

[coius]

I would like to chime in because I had the "No Video" problem with a Beige G3 as well as a 7300. The main issue I had was that the radeon wouldn't output video, but the internal one may. It I got it loaded into the system and fiddled around with the video settings using the internal video and then rebooting and taking off the internal video display, I was able to get the Radeon 7000 that I had to work.

you *may* need to source and original card. Mainly as the one apple sent with the machines were specifically coded by Apple. Hence the reason why people didn't have this issue when they got it out of the box.

I happen to have a PCI 2MB Mach64 Card that came out of a 9500. I am going to be shipping some stuff soon. If you send $14 my way, I will gladly ship it out (That includes shipping) I basically want $10 for the card, and padding the $4 for shipping. If it uses less than $4 for shipping, I will gladly return the remainder of the $4.

I will accept $$ through paypal, but I will have to let you know when I can ship stuff out. Should be next week (that also goes for JRL and whatnot that I am dealing with now also)

 

[Kami]

I am going to pull out my 9600 tomorrow and try a few things to see if I can help out a bit further with this problem

 

[Gil]

Sorry to hijack Lateralus' thread, but I'm getting almost identical problems on my 9500 now.

I have a Sonnet G3 300 MHz upgrade, as well as original 604e 150 processor. I also have the original ATI Mach64 card, as well as my flashed Voodoo3 PCI card.

Nothing works! I can get chime, sometimes PRAM doesnt take, haard drive activity. With the Mach64, I get a pink raster with a cursor, nothing happens. CUDA reset doesnt help.

Please help!

 

[madmax_2069]

i wonder if a failing PSU could cause this ?

does everthing on the motgherboard look good like the caps and other.

its to bad you no longer have the orignal hardware, i find its always good to keep the orignal CPU (if its good) Video card (if it came with one), and ram (if its good) just for these issues you are having now, just so you could test.

 

[Kami]

OK, I pulled out the 9600 after a year of it sitting under a desk. I'd forgotten how big and how heavy the beast was.

My 9600 has the original video card and Mac Radeon 7000 with DVI/VGA/S-Video. Plugged in USB mouse and attached it to Samsung LCD via VGA.It powered up fine, chimed, and SCSI drives spun up correctly. Screen flickered. But... no video. I kid you not.

Now I'm pissed off. Since I couldn't remember which video card was for the start up monitor I tried all combinations of adapters (Mac DB-15 -> VGA, DVI->VGA). The it dawned on me. The Samsung is a widescreen display.

I hauled the beast back across the house to where I have a non-widescreen display. Plugged everything back in. Powered on and the screen flickered and went blank. Still no display. After saying a few choice words, I opened the case and pulled the Radeon out. Reset the PRAM 3 times. Plugged the DB-15 to VGA adapter in and started up. Success. Full colour and the desktop all there

So, now the big question is what type of display are you plugging into? Also have you pulled the battery and left it out for any length of time?

 

[Lateralus]

i wonder if a failing PSU could cause this ?
does everthing on the motgherboard look good like the caps and other.

its to bad you no longer have the orignal hardware, i find its always good to keep the orignal CPU (if its good) Video card (if it came with one), and ram (if its good) just for these issues you are having now, just so you could test.

I went over the board very closely a few days ago looking for missing resistors or busted batteries/caps; nothing. :-\

And yeah, I definitely wish I still had some original parts. But I threw away nearly all of my Mac junk earlier this year when I was convinced that my days of playing with old Macs were behind me.

So wrong...

I hauled the beast back across the house to where I have a non-widescreen display. Plugged everything back in. Powered on and the screen flickered and went blank. Still no display. After saying a few choice words, I opened the case and pulled the Radeon out. Reset the PRAM 3 times. Plugged the DB-15 to VGA adapter in and started up. Success. Full colour and the desktop all there
So, now the big question is what type of display are you plugging into? Also have you pulled the battery and left it out for any length of time?

You reset the PRAM or the CUDA? I still can't get PRAM to take from the keyboard command.

I'll try removing the card and hitting the CUDA a few times.

And I'm using a standard ratio 15" HP CRT w/ VGA. So I doubt it's causing any problems.

Thanks for the continued help guys. I appreciate it.

 

[Lateralus]

Well, I removed the Radeon, ZIF Carrier and PRAM battery and held down the CUDA for around 10 seconds three times over.

Nothing.

And Cmd-Opt-P-R still wont take. Which is the most confusing thing of all to me.

 

[Kami]

I did the Cmd-Opt-P-R reset. I kept hold holding down the 4 keys until it cycled through 3 times.

I wonder if you should pull the battery off the logic board overnight and then put it back in. Pull the power as well.

 

[Lateralus]

Yeah, already did that.

The machine has been sitting unplugged in the corner for the better part of a week and I didn't put the PRAM battery back in until tonight.

Man, I really don't wanna have to chuck a 9600. One of my favorite machines ever.